Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!bionet!ames!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!360!1.13!Curtis.Oglesby From: Curtis.Oglesby@p13.f1.n360.z1.fidonet.org (Curtis Oglesby) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Disability Rat Stickers Message-ID: <9450@bunker.UUCP> Date: 5 Jan 90 03:38:42 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Curtis.Oglesby@p13.f1.n360.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:360/1.13 - Augusta Forum, North Augusta SC Lines: 70 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 6123 PG> You said that you made up 1000 papers that read "...", and looked PG> like traffic tickets as a result of my message. Good for you! You PG> are a lot bolder than I am. I wouldn't be caught dead doing that PG> after that guy dumped his ashes all over PG> my hood. He might deck me next time. PG> I just watch people take those parking spaces and seethe. PG> There is one pet peeve I have, though. Many businesses put ALL PG> their shaded spaces into handicapped spaces. It gets very hot in PG> Arizona, and I would like the opportunity vie for SOME of those PG> parking spaces with the handicapped. It doesn't seem fair. Another PG> thing that seems unfair is when they put so many handicapped spaces. PG> One time recently I noticed that all the shaded spots at the local PG> building materials store were handicapped. I wondered just what PG> percentage of their clientele is handicapped! While it is not PG> impossible for a handicapped person to need building materials, most PG> of what they sell is beyond MY capacity to use, physically, and I PG> don't qualify to use one of the spaces! My own view is that if four PG> spaces are ROUTINELY empty, the supply is greater than the demand. PG> Of course, I usually shop when the store is less busy, so who am I PG> to talk? PG> The point of all this is that I am glad you made those papers. PG> More power to you. PG> Now I just wish they'd make parking spaces for people with very PG> young children, so they don't have to carry them so far, or so the PG> youngsters can get into the store PG> without having to cross the parking lot. Pat, At first glance of your message, I was seething and was ready to deck you for your little whimpering plea for fairness. How FAIR is it for someone to have a physical condition which makes them NEED those spaces? Would you like to make a pact with the devil so that we could trade places and you could use my electric wheelchair and those spaces? I'll readily walk through some heat, however slow! I want to walk again, period. As for shaded spots, where else would you locate handicap spaces. If a business were to meet accessibility requirements, wouldn't it follow that the accessible spaces would be next to the building? As for numbers of spaces, they probably have so many handicap spaces so that there'll be enough for the physically handicapped (who need them) and the morally handicapped (who don't need them, but don't care about anyone except themselves!) I know from personal experience that this method for deciding numbers of spaces is needed here. But then I read your post again and realized that I'd probably missed your intent. I'm jumping into a discussion that I haven't been following. I hope that I have misread your intentions and, if so, I'm sorry and as the late Emily Latella would say, "Nevermind!" If you intended your message as I've read it, you should rethink your attitude. But stop whining; it doesn't become you. And don't judge the abilities of others based on your own; people are surprisingly resourceful if the spirit and desire are strong enough! I feel better now. I hope you don't feel worse. Take care, Curt -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!360!1.13!Curtis.Oglesby Internet: Curtis.Oglesby@p13.f1.n360.z1.fidonet.org