Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!sunybcs!acsu.buffalo.edu!pjg From: pjg@autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu (Paul Graham) Newsgroups: news.config Subject: Re: Unregistered-but-referenced sites (was Re: deleted UUCP sites) Message-ID: <15529@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> Date: 6 Jan 90 05:44:31 GMT References: <4195@convex.UUCP> <30273@mcdchg.chg.mcd.mot.com> <43496@improper.coherent.com> <15066@bfmny0.UU.NET> Sender: nobody@acsu.Buffalo.EDU Reply-To: pjg@autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu (Paul Graham) Distribution: news Organization: University at Buffalo Lines: 24 In-reply-to: tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) i haven't been a map-coord for a year (despite the fact that my name still appears) but i play one on t.v. you don't (aren't supposed) get two ``ghost'' (the technical term) sites unless they both spring up in the update window because the region co-ord. is supposed to check new sites against the maps before they send them in to mel. doesn't always work but nothing else does either so, so what. there's a policy, it just has the possibility of failure. mel's choice of permanent vs. conditional was for contrast, not to suggest that any name is ever *permanent*. sites come and go all the time. sometimes in the update window itself. if a regional co-ord. ops to purge silent sites after a year that just fine as long as it's not a secret. i've never know it to be a secret and in fact i recently got mail prompting a map update. i'd say that's typical. and if the regional can't find you then you probably don't exist. if no one at the site responds to requests for an update (i used to call) then they shouldn't exist (my opinion). finally: the map project encourages people with definite knowledge about other sites to submit maps or updates on their behalf. oooops (really finally): if a regional deleted a ghost site entry it might be a little heavy-handed but you can always submit a map for the ghost and make it real. or appeal to the map gods.