Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!psueea!parsely!bucket!whizz!bbh From: bbh@whizz.uucp (Bud Hovell) Newsgroups: news.config Subject: Re: deleted UUCP sites Message-ID: <991@whizz.uucp> Date: 7 Jan 90 09:22:23 GMT References: <4195@convex.UUCP> <30273@mcdchg.chg.mcd.mot.com> <9575@samsung.samsung.com> <777@wang.UUCP> Reply-To: bbh@whizz.UUCP (Bud Hovell,Home,6363000) Distribution: news Organization: McCormick & Hovell, Inc. Lines: 40 In article <777@wang.UUCP> fitz@wang.UUCP (Tom Fitzgerald) writes: >warren@samsung.COM (Warren Lavallee) writes: >> I think the UUCP map coordinators should require that the node exists, >> before allowing an edge in a map entry. Also, every so often they >> should do consistency checks on all of their maps and take corrective >> measures if they do not pass. > >I have to agree with this (which is a little hypocritical because there >is a machine here at Wang that violates this, but what the heck). When >people publish connections to unmapped machines, it really raises the >chance of getting 2 machines with the same name in different places It also happened here. We filed a map for the name 'diana'. Guess what? When our mail started disappearing, I checked and found that another machine, unregistered, had been mentioned under that name in one of the maps (still is, actually). The response I got to my inquiry was, in effect, that the best thing for us to do was change our name and refile a new map. When I asked why the other site shouldn't be challenged to either file for the name or get itself taken off the maps, I was told (authoritatively) that there was concern about doing anything that might tend to reduce the number of participating sites on the net. Right. :-| We filed another map and dropped the issue. Jeesh. The fix is simple and obvious: no map, no access. Period. Maps must be updated formally at least once a year, and at any time major information has changed. No mapped site will allow a new connection onto the net until the administrator at the existing site assures that a map has been filed for the new site, and that the new site agrees to conform to these simple maintenance standards thereafter. Hells bells, people, if your time has *any* value, why continue to waste it be preserving a non-policy having zero redeeming social value? Bud ________________________________________________________________________ UUCP: ...{tektronix|sun}!nosun!whizz!bbh (Just another pilgrim :-) MOTD: "Tuva or Bust!" - Richard Fehnman