Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mdcbbs!spain From: spain@mdcbbs.com Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news Subject: Re: My moderated newsgroups reject new newsitems Message-ID: <647.25af0b15@mdcbbs.com> Date: 13 Jan 90 11:03:49 GMT References: <645.25ac4b0d@mdcbbs.com> <21142.25adb72d@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Organization: McDonnell Douglas M&E, Cypress CA Lines: 276 In article <21142.25adb72d@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: > > Please, folks, when you are having a problem, please try to include as > much information about the problem as you can. In this case, I need > to know what version of NEWS you are running, what the specific error > message is when the articles are rejected, and how your news feed is > handled (NNTP or MAIL). A sample article that was rejected along with > a log of the NEWS run that rejected it would be helpful. I suspect that I'm not the only one with this problem so I'll post the information I just sent to Mark Pizzolato and summarize to the net when this is resolved (even if it is embarrassing) :-): Here is a portion of the file I used to create newsgroups and then set them moderated: $ set noon $ news /noscreen create newsgroup comp.sources.misc /cache/itemhold=14/hold=* y set newsgroup comp.sources.misc /moder=comp-sources-misc@uunet.uu.net set newsgroup comp.sources.misc /title="Moderated newsgroup - Posting of software" exit $ exit Here is a SHOW NEWSGROUP: NEWS> show newsgroup comp.sources.misc comp.sources.misc - Prot:RWX, Hold:(Itm:14,Grp:Perm), #: 13, Mod-Address:comp-sources-misc@uunet.uu.net Show Entry: Newsgroup comp.sources.misc Newsgroup: comp.sources.misc Title: Posting of software. (Moderated) Prot:RWX Created: 9-Jan-90 Retention: Permanent Note-Retention: 14 days Count: 13 Moderator: Mail to - comp-sources-misc@uunet.uu.net Moderator-Approval: Required Status: Network Distributed Newsgroup Access-File: Membership list follows Member: newsmgr MODERATE WRITE Newsgroup is entered in the following Classes: $net NEWS> Here is a log file that show the newsitems being rejected: NEWS_RNEWS starting at 12-JAN-1990 05:58:42.65, infile DUB0:[UUCP.RCVDNEWS]NEWS_BATCH.UUNET_S_BH_R2; File is compressed, decompressing. VMS News - V5.9 (09-Jul-1989) [NewsManager Access Enabled] Add - Reading file: DUB0:[UUCP.NEWS_MGR]NEWS.BATCH000055B0;1 Add <22063@adm.BRL.MIL> comp.unix.wizards: JUNK (Non-Approved posting to Moderated Newsgroup) Add <22063@adm.brl.mil> junk Add <4520@convex.UUCP> comp.windows.x: JUNK (No local Newsgroup match) Add <13050.25aa3912@max.u.washington.edu> rec.arts.tv.soaps: JUNK (No local Newsgroup match) Add <1690010@teecs.UUCP> comp.sys.hp Add <10623@stag.math.lsa.umich.edu> comp.archives Add <5660@holston.UUCP> comp.sys.ibm.pc Add <21750@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> rec.arts.tv Add <5661@holston.UUCP> news.groups Add <12074@nis.mn.org> rec.arts.startrek Add <18116@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU> comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac Add <14064@pwcs.UUCP> rec.arts.tv.soaps: JUNK (No local Newsgroup match) Add <10624@stag.math.lsa.umich.edu> comp.archives Add <1610@meccsd.MECC.MN.ORG> rec.humor Add <21751@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> rec.arts.tv Add <10400003@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu> comp.dcom.lans Add comp.sys.dec.micro: JUNK (No local Newsgroup match) Add <6@bootsie.UUCP> comp.sys.mac.programmer Add <6619@wpi.wpi.edu> rec.humor Add <7@bootsie.UUCP> comp.sys.mac.programmer Add <10500016@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu> comp.dcom.modems: JUNK (No local Newsgroup match) Add <1990Jan11.040733.405@waikato.ac.nz> news.newusers.questions: JUNK (No local Newsgroup match) Add <9001120018.AA21940@foobar.Colorado.EDU> comp.windows.x: JUNK (No local Newsgroup match) Add <1552@lakesys.lakesys.com> misc.forsale,comp.sys.apple: JUNK (No local Newsgroup match) Add <14960308@acf4.NYU.EDU> comp.os.vms Add <10500017@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu> comp.dcom.modems: JUNK (No local Newsgroup match) Add comp.object Add <2564@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> rec.arts.movies Add <955@excelan.COM> comp.sys.ibm.pc Add <14286@jumbo.dec.com> comp.windows.news: JUNK (No local Newsgroup match) NEWSMGR job terminated at 12-JAN-1990 06:01:23.01 Accounting information: Buffered I/O count: 936 Peak working set size: 1237 Direct I/O count: 2528 Peak page file size: 5341 Page faults: 1790 Mounted volumes: 0 Charged CPU time: 0 00:00:28.89 Elapsed time: 0 00:02:41.59 Here is my MAILPATHS file: # MAILPATHS 3-Nov-1988 # # edited for simpact by jeh, 01-apr-1989 # # VMS NEWS uses the mailpaths file to determine the address of the moderator # in the case of locally originated postings to a moderated newsgroup. # # The following is an extract of a posting describing the Usenet News 2.11 # mailpaths file. I have annotated the posting to outline the differences # between this description and VMS NEWS V6.0 #++ #NOTE: Annotations are delimited by the #++ and #-- comment lines. #-- #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Path: fac3!anucsd!csadfa!neumann!munnari!uunet!husc6!purdue!spaf # From: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU (Gene Spafford) # Newsgroups: news.lists,news.admin # Subject: How to Construct the Mailpaths File (Updated: 15 January 1988) # Message-ID: <2957@arthur.cs.purdue.edu> # Date: 16 Jan 88 06:34:31 GMT # Expires: 6 Feb 88 06:34:31 GMT # Organization: Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue Univ. # Lines: 135 # Approved: spaf@cs.purdue.EDU # Xref: fac3 news.lists:95 news.admin:409 # Supersedes: <2806@arthur.cs.purdue.edu> # # Original-from: Gene Spafford (spaf@cs.purdue.edu) # [Most recent change: 15 January 1988 by spaf@cs.purdue.edu (Gene Spafford)] # # News 2.11 has been designed to make it simpler to submit articles to # moderated newsgroups and to reply via mail to posted articles. For # these functions to work, the file "mailpaths" must exist in the news # library and contain current information. This file describes the # syntax of the contents of the file and how to construct it for your site. # #++ # NOTE: VMS NEWS does NOT use the mailpaths file for mailing articles - the # mailpaths file is only used to determine the address of a newsgroup moderator. #-- # # Syntax # ------ # All lines in the file consist of a keyword followed by whitespace, # followed by a printf-style format string which is used to encode a mail # address. The format string should be constructed so that there is a # single "%s" in the field, and other information necessary to construct # a valid address to the appropriate site (see below). # # The keyword field consists of either the word "internet", the word # "backbone", or some newsgroup pattern. # #++ # The keyword "internet" is not used by VMS NEWS #-- # # These are examined by the # software to determine which format-string to use. Note that the first # appropriate line matched is the one used -- thus, the "backbone" # keyword line should be placed last in the file if regional or local # moderated groups are supported. # # Submissions to moderated groups # ------------------------------- # When you attempt to post to a moderated newsgroup # the action of news is to mail the submission to the moderator. # This is done by searching through "mailpaths" file for a keyword # matching the newgroup being posted to, or, by default, the keyword # "backbone". Matching occurs as in the "sys" file -- thus, # for example, "news" or "news.all" will match articles posted # in the "news" category. This feature can be used to support local # moderated groups. # # Once a line has been matched, the name of the moderated group is # transformed into an address. This is done by first turning all the # imbedded periods within the newsgroup name into hyphens (e.g., # "news.lists" becomes "news-lists") because many mailers mishandle # addresses with periods in the username (periods are supposed to be # delimiters only in the host/domain part of RFC822 addresses, but some # mailers "overreact"). Next, the transformed group name is encoded into # an address using the format-string present on the line matched from # "mailpaths" and the article is mailed. Thus, a posting to "news.lists" # from a site with the line # backbone emory!gatech!%s # in the mailpaths file would have the article mailed to # "emory!gatech!news-lists". Likewise, a line like # backbone %s@gatech.edu # would result in the article being mailed to "news-lists@gatech.edu". # To make the mechanism for moderated postings simpler, a subset of the # backbone sites (plus some others) have committed to keeping a complete # up-to-date set of mail aliases for the moderated groups. Therefore, to # build this line in your "mailpaths" file, you need only construct # an address to get the mail to one of these sites. In turn, once the # submission reaches that site, it will be forwarded on to the # appropriate moderator's mailbox. # # The sites currently maintaining these lists are given in the following # list. Pick the one that is "closest" to your site and use it in your # "backbone" format string: # # ames (ames.arc.nasa.gov) # clyde (clyde.att.com) # codas (codas.att.com) # decuac (decuac.dec.com) # decwrl (decwrl.dec.com) # gatech (gatech.edu) # hao (hao.ucar.edu) # husc6 (husc6.harvard.edu) # kddlab (kddlab.kddlabs.jp) # killer # linus # mcnc (mcnc.org) # mit-eddie (eddie.mit.edu) # rutgers (rutgers.edu) # sdcsvax (sdcsvax.ucsd.edu) # tektronix (tektronix.tek.com) # ucbvax (ucbvax.berkeley.edu) # uunet (uunet.uu.net) # uw-beaver (beaver.cs.washington.edu) # watmath (math.waterloo.edu) # # #Gene Spafford #Dept. of Computer Sciences, Purdue University, W. Lafayette IN 47907-2004 #Internet: spaf@cs.purdue.edu uucp: ...!{decwrl,gatech,ucbvax}!purdue!spaf #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # note that this is NOT used for non-moderated lists that are merely gatewayed # into News, e.g. info-vax/comp.os.vms and (soon) vmsnet%falcon/vmsnet.misc . # --- jeh # comp.laser-printers laser-printers@uunet.uu.net comp.laser-printer laser-printer@uunet.uu.net rec.humor.funny funny@looking.on.ca rec.ham-radio.packet packet-radio@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil rec.ham-radio info-hams@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil rec.arts.sf-lovers sf-lovers@rutgers.edu comp.unix.wizards unix-wizards@brl.arpa comp.unix.questions info-unix@brl.arpa comp.sys.sun sun-spots@rice.edu comp.sys.misc info-micro@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil comp.sources.unix unix-sources@brl.arpa comp.sources.misc unix-sources@brl.arpa comp.protocols.nfs nfs@tmc.edu comp.lang.c info-c@brl.arpa comp.emacs unix-emacs@bbn.com news.announce.newusers announce@stargate.com vmsnet.announce.newusers vmsnet-announce-newusers@mccall.uucp vmsnet.announce vmsnet-announce@mccall.uucp news.lists news.announce.newusers news.announce.important news.announce.conferences comp.mail.maps news.lists news.announce.newusers news.announce.important news.announce.conferences comp.mail.maps news.lists news.announce.newusers news.announce.important news.announce.conferences comp.mail.maps backbone %s@uunet.uu.net --- I don't think anyone (local) has tried to post to a moderated newsgroup yet. If they do, the newsitem is supposed to automatically mail to the moderator which is what I was trying to setup properly :-). --- ============================================================= | Harrison M. Spain III | Voice: (714) 952-6114 | | McDonnell Douglas M&E | Internet: spain@mdcbbs.com | | 5701 Katella Ave. | UUCP: uunet!mdcbbs!spain | | Cypress, CA 90630 | PSI: PSI%31060099980019::SPAIN | =============================================================