Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!uw-beaver!fluke!vince From: vince@tc.fluke.COM (Craig Johnson) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Electric Fences (safety) Summary: Watch out! Message-ID: <13569@fluke.COM> Date: 2 Jan 90 21:22:19 GMT References: <5593@shamu.WV.TEK.COM> <12346@cbnewse.ATT.COM> <25525@cup.portal.com> Sender: news@tc.fluke.COM Distribution: na Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 41 A couple of years ago I went out and bought the cheapest "fence charger" I could find (to keep the dog out of the garden) and when I got it home and checked it out I found that it consisted of NOTHING MORE THAN AN AC LINE CORD AND TRANSFORMER mounted in a plastic box. There was no fuse, no interrupter, and nothing to limit current other than the physical properties of the transformer. Guess what? it WAS NOT UL approved! Needless to say, I was concerned about the safety of this thing, so I decided to see just how much of a shock it could produce and whether a person could safely handle it. Not wanting to risk my life checking this out, I devised to unground myself, connect one electrode to my wedding ring, and use a second electrode to tap the back of the same finger. This was done, of course, to limit the current path to a single finger and keep it as far as possible from more critical body areas. I don't remember at the moment how the second electrode was situated, but I'm sure I didn't hold it in my other hand! Then using a resistor substitution box, and starting at a very high value, I varied the input to the transformer, shocking my finger, until I reached a point where I decided it was unsafe to proceed further. I don't remember the voltages measured, but I recall stopping at 1/3 to 1/2 of the way to full zap. The "charger" was returned to the dealer the next day. Eventually, I constructed my own fence zapper based on pulsing an automotive ignition coil, which was much safer. The zapper I ended up with only caused mild discomfort to people, but was very effective on a dog's wet nose and he was quickly convinced to stay out of the garden. The moral: Don't assume all electric fences are safe to grab! You may be betting your life if you are wrong! WARNING - I do not advise anyone to test "fence chargers" by shocking themselves. This practice could result in your death! (No smilely on this one). DISCLAIMER - Nothing expressed in this posting is intended to represent the views or advice of the John Fluke Mfg. Co. ------ Craig V. Johnson ...!fluke!vince John Fluke Mfg. Co. Everett, WA