Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!shadooby!yale!cmcl2!phri!news From: roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Need help solving circuit Message-ID: <1990Jan4.191641.2967@phri.nyu.edu> Date: 4 Jan 90 19:16:41 GMT Sender: news@phri.nyu.edu (News System) Organization: Public Health Research Institute, New York City Lines: 63 I'm stumped solving the following DC circuit to find the bias points of all the transistors. It's the final audio amp for one channel of a Pioneer SX-770 reciever, after a few unimportant simplifications. It's apparantly a 2-stage push-pull, but I can only guess if it's running class A, AB, or B. The diode on the left marked 1.3V is a temperature compensator. The ECG catalog lists a 1.3V forward drop for the replacement part; I think it's probably safe to model it as a constant voltage source. The 0.2V source at the lower right is the thevenin equivalent of an earlier stage, looking through the DC-coupled feedback connection. The forward signal connection from that stage is AC coupled, so doesn't show here. If it matters, the 110k and 25 ohm resistors marked with *s are variables; I've arbitrarily set them to their midpoints. They are actually 82-152k and 0-50 ohm, presumably used to balance the gains of the two channels at the factory. I don't know how to attack this. I could do a straight forward mesh analysis, but I'd end up writing KVL around 12 loops and I don't have any plans on solving 12x12 matricies manually, at least not in this life. Are there some tricks I can use to break this into several simplier circuits? My first thought was to slice it into 3 vertical sections and assume that the base drive for section N+1 is negligable when solving section N, but I can't get the voltage at point V1 without knowing the collector currents for the later sections. In practice, I can cheat because the schematic lists the nominal V1 as 20.2V, but if I didn't know that, how would I solve for it, other than building the circuit and measuring it with a voltmeter? +48 | +-----------------+-------------+ | | | 4.3k | | | |/ NPN | +---------------| B=100 | | |\ | + --- v | 1.3V \_/ | |/ NPN - | +-----------| B=60 | | |\ | | v | 220 | | | 0.5 | | | V1 O---+-----+-----------+-------------+------------+ | | | | | | | 22 | | *110k *25 | | | | | v | | | | |/ PNP | | | +---------| B=100 | 27k | |/ NPN |\ | | +---| B=100 | |/ NPN | | |\ +-----------| B=60 | | v | |\ --- + 0.2V | | 220 v - - 6.8k 150 | | | | | | 0.5 | | | | | | V V V V V -- Roy Smith, Public Health Research Institute 455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016 roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu -OR- {att,philabs,cmcl2,rutgers,hombre}!phri!roy "My karma ran over my dogma"