Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: terryr@ogicse.ogc.edu (Terry Rooker) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Military Cuts Message-ID: <12878@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 8 Jan 90 05:10:59 GMT References: <12686@cbnews.ATT.COM> <12757@cbnews.ATT.COM> <12819@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR Lines: 47 Approved: military@att.att.com From: terryr@ogicse.ogc.edu (Terry Rooker) In article <12819@cbnews.ATT.COM> randy@ms.uky.edu (Randy Appleton) writes: > >>We might also do well by considering whether or not we really >>*need* 17 attack aircraft carriers (that was Reagan's touted goal, > >I don't need 17. I need to be able to get ONE or TWO carrier quicly to any spot >quickly. Depending on how long I want to wait, I guess I could do with >MUCH less than 17! Actually, the navy uses the same criteria you use to end up with the figure of 15 (not 17) carriers. Consider that the Earth is about 24,000 miles around the equator, and a carrier task force can steam at about 20 knots. I know this is a gross simplification, but I want you to appreciate the magnitude of the problem. Also, all but one carrier is homeported in the US. If you only had a handful of carriers, then it could take weeks to deploy one from the US. Hence the policy of foward basing, i.e. deployments. The general figure used for planning these things is that you need 3 ships for every one that you need on station. 1 in refit/post-deployment activities, 1 on deployment, and 1 in pre-deployment/transit. You actually need maybe one more overall because of long term overhauls, i.e. SLEP (Service Life Extension Program). Since we have interests in the Eastern and Western Pacific, the Atlantic, the Med, and the Indian Ocean that would require a carrier on station, that gives us a minimum figure of 15 carriers (not counting carriers in SLEP). Since we don't have 15, we fudge, and the IO only gets an occasional carrier. If you think this is a rather slack schedule, the navy has problems maintaining personnel becasue of the separations it causes. For example the ship I was on had a solid 6/12 deployment. In the 12 non-deployment months we were underway for about 3 months (accumulative time). Add in schools, and duty days, you can see that this 3 for 1 policy places great demands on the personnel. It can't be stretched any further. By using your criteria, we need at least 15 carriers, and to be fair to the crews, it would be nice to have 17-8 carriers. Then we could get to ANY trouble spot within a week, likely trouble spots we could handle a little sooner:-) -- Terry Rooker terryr@cse.ogi.edu