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From: steve@pmday_2.Dayton.NCR.COM (Steve Bridges)
Newsgroups: sci.military
Subject: Re: Fighters without guns
Keywords: Only the F-4?
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Date: 10 Jan 90 03:28:09 GMT
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From: steve@pmday_2.Dayton.NCR.COM (Steve Bridges)

In article <12928@cbnews.ATT.COM> dlj@cbnewsh.ATT.COM (david.l.jacobowitz) writes:
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>From: dlj@cbnewsh.ATT.COM (david.l.jacobowitz)
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>Now, I don't wish to restart the discussion on why this is not true.
>But I'm trying to think of the fighters that were actually deployed
>without an internal gun, and I can only name one: the F-4 Phantom II.
>I do know that most of the F-4's contemporaries did in fact have
>internal guns, for example the USAF's F-105 Thunderchief
>and the USN's F-8 Crusader.

I remember reading tha after the Air Force F-4 pilots started 
screaming for a gun, the SUU-23 gun pod was developed.  It was
hung on the centerline hardpoint.

Later, on the F-4E for the Air Force, it had in internal Vulcan.

The Navy F-4B and F-4J did not have an internal gun.

If you consider the A-4 a fighter, it did not have an internal gun.

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