Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!umich!samsung!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!auvm!EI!SCHEW From: schew@EI.ECN.PURDUE.EDU (H.C.E.) Newsgroups: bit.listserv.allmusic Subject: Time in music and others.. Message-ID: <9002060356.AA18579@ei.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: 6 Feb 90 03:56:59 GMT Sender: Discussions on all forms of Music Reply-To: Discussions on all forms of Music Lines: 24 Approved: NETNEWS@AUVM Gateway An interesting experiment perhaps? Try to make music that has no relation to time at all. In other words no time signatures, etc... It would have to be something just improvised, and recorded then learned without applying any sort of timing to it... I think this would be very difficult to do, but then again, who knows? Anyone know of some band who has tried it? King Crimson would be my best guess, if anyone at all... To whomever said that literature needed time as much as music... I would tend to disagree. See some James Joyce. He writes without a reference to time, combining the past, present and future moments into one. There is a name for his unique style that I just cannot remember right now (ARGH!). If you are interested in trying his writing, go for Portrait of an Artist as a Young Man. He has a VERY difficult style, especially in such works as Ulysses and Finnegan's Wake (for which he made his own language of sorts. Very poetical and almost musical in parts. WONDERFUL.) but it becomes great fun (for me anyway) trying to puzzle out what he is saying... Cool stuff. Read FW out loud with a friend. Hilarious. Anyway, I suppose that James Joyce is rather unique, so maybe literature does depend on time almost as much as music.... ;-) H.C.E.