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From: HANK@BARILVM.BITNET (Hank Nussbacher)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Subject: Re: Why nodes don't have a :routtab. tag
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Date: 1 Feb 90 12:58:10 GMT
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>a) A :routtab tag must be specified for each node which uses
>   a table generation program. Such programs should use the
>   information from :routtab rather than from other sources
>   (:netsoft, :info).
...
>
>Why are there nodes which don't have a :routtab tag yet (in BITNET):
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Last year I prepared a list of nodes with their appropriate :routtab
>tags according to the subscriptions found in :inform/:info tags.
>The :routtab tag contained NETSERV as "provider" and the person from
>the :inform tag as "recipient".
...
>Conclusions:
>------------
>
>Check your node entry (entries) whether a :routtab tag is specified.
>If not, specify:
>
>     :routtab.NONE           if you need no table
>
>     :routtab.table_format   if you generate your table with GENROUTS
>
>     :routtab.table_format (NETSERV,recipient_nje_address)
>                             if the table is to be sent from NETSERV
>
>Send the update request for your node entry to your network
>administration (BITNIC or Country Coordinator).
>
>
>Regards, Berthold Pasch

What of those sites that have an AFD to the NETINIT file as you
suggested in your mail back in October?  They would not appear
as having a routtab, and I assumed that having an AFD was as good
as having a routtab entry:

>Date:         Fri, 27 Oct 89 09:38:23 CET
>Sender:       Network Operations Group <EARN-NOG@FRMOP11>
>From:         "Berthold Pasch +49 (6221) 404-242" <PASCH@DHDIBM1>
>Subject:      NETSERV support of :routtab tag
>
...
>An alternate way to subscribe to  routing table services of Netserv is to
>send  an AFD  ADD  request to  Netserv  for a  dummy  file named  "nodeid
>NETINIT". This is  also the only way  to subscribe if you  need a command
>line in  front of the  routing tables being shipped  to you (see  the AFD
>PROLOG  option).  AFD  ADD  to  "nodeid NETINIT"  can  only  be  sent  by
>"NETSERV-privileged-users", i.e. users with a NETSERV password.
>
>There will always only one routing table per node be provided. The order
>of preference of the subscriptions is:
>   1) the first AFD request that Netserv finds for this "nodeid NEITINIT"
>   2) the :routtab tag
>   3) the first :inform/:info tag pair that subscribes to RSCS, JES2,
>      JES2-nn, JES3, JNET or UREP (only for non-US Netservs)
>
...
>
>Berthold Pasch

As a matter of fact, it appears that AFD takes precedence over routtab.
That is why many Israeli sites don't have a routtab tag - they get it
via NETINIT.

Hank