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From: lrbartram@watcgl.waterloo.edu (lyn bartram)
Newsgroups: can.francais
Subject: Re: Sault Sainte-Marie officiellement unilingue anglophone
Keywords: Sault Sainte-Marie Kapuskasing
Message-ID: <13266@watcgl.waterloo.edu>
Date: 6 Feb 90 15:02:27 GMT
References: <1990Feb5.182925.2005@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> <90521@looking.on.ca>
Reply-To: lrbartram@watcgl.waterloo.edu (lyn bartram)
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In article <90521@looking.on.ca> brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) writes:
>I don't know why they would rule against a city being bilingual, unless
>it was a taxpayer revolt, and we hardly have many of those in this
>country.
>
>I think the soo's decision is being blown out of proportion.  Some people
>are writing that the soo declared itself "officially unilingual" or something.
>As though city hall is the city.  Far from it.
	Les representants elus de la ville de Sault Ste. Marie (ou est-ce 
qu'on devrait maintenant l'appeler "St. MAry's Falls"?), dont la
responsabilite de realiser la volonte des citoyens, ont declare la ville
"unilingue".  This was an official act, taken by virtue of their position.
To say City Hall is not the City is specious.
>
>All they did was say, as far as I know, was that in the interests of
>conserving money, city services would only be guaranteed available in
>English. 
	S'il s'agit simplement de se proteger contre les taux imposes par le
gouvernment provincial pour subventionner le biligualisme, ils aurait pu
l'exprimer exactement.  They didn't do that: they said the Sault was English,
and would never provide municipal services in French.  THERE'S NEVER BEEN A
QUESTION OF THAT.  Un revolte fiscale, tel qu'en CAlifornie, s'addresserait
directement au question, et non au possibilite jamais prevu par le
gouvernement en question.
>
>It's not as though they went overboard and prohibited french storekeepers
>from putting up signs in french!  :-)
    TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT.  
    Note that i was born a Quebec Anglo.  I probably feel that sign law more
than anybody in ONtario.
>How many unilingual french speakers are there in the soo?  Anybody
>must realize that beyond a certain point, it's a tremendous waste of
>taxpayer's money to pay to have every city service available in French.
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^
	You are completely wrong.  THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY SUGGESTION THAT
ANY CITY SERVICES IN ANY OF THESE TOWNS BE AVAILABLE IN FRENCH.  It is a
paper tiger.  This is a question of federal and provincial services in NOrthern
Ontario.  And to answer your question, 40% of Norther Ontario is French.
Ca suffit?

If I lived in Que'bec I wouldn't complain if they wanted to
>make some city services available only in french.  In fact, I wouldn't
>be surprised if this isn't the case already.
	As a Quebec Anglo, my mother deals with the:
	1) Quebec government in English, for taxes, driver's license 
	   and the like;
	2) the Montreal Urban Community in English;
	3) her local municipality in English;
	4) the hospital services in English; and
	5) the university and school systems in English;

	How many French outside Quebec have such services?
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