Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!umich!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!yale!cs.yale.edu!blenko-tom From: blenko-tom@CS.YALE.EDU (Tom Blenko) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Chinese Room by Shannon and McCarthy from 1956 Message-ID: <14266@cs.yale.edu> Date: 4 Feb 90 18:21:34 GMT References: <2891@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> <2903@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> <10599@june.cs.washington.edu> Sender: news@cs.yale.edu Reply-To: blenko-tom@CS.YALE.EDU (Tom Blenko) Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept, New Haven CT 06520-2158 Lines: 39 | |Somehow, Shannon and McCarthy managed to get quite famous enough, |anyway...and for somewhat more substantial contributions. I don't think they |felt the need to make a career out of a one paragraph straw-man idea. | |0) "Those who don't read the literature are doomed to rewrite it" | |1) "Those who do read the literature, but have nothing to add, are grateful |for those in class 0)" ... appeared as an echo of previous slurs on Searle's professional contributions. This is certainly ironic. First, Searle has had quite a distinguished and productive career as a philosopher independent of anything he has written about AI. Second, it is evident to anyone who has done some homework where Searle's concerns originated. Indeed, he himself adopted the functionalist view of meaning early on, and moved to a different view subsequently. He has even gone to the trouble of writing a book to discuss the latter point of view! I think that conduct in this newsgroup of late has been disgraceful. I strongly doubt that several respondants have read the article(s) in question, and it is quite clear that most have failed to understand what they say (never mind arguments about whether the position presented is correct or defensible). And now it has moved from the level of sophistry contributed by the uninformed to the higher plane of attacks on Searle's professional standing mounted by the profoundly ignorant. I think the readership is entitled to some relief. While I doubt that this was its intent, I sometimes believe Searle's Minds, Brains, and Programs has become an intelligence test for the AI community. This is unfortunate. Tom