Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!eru!luth!sunic!lth.se!newsuser From: janeric@control.lth.se (Jan Eric Larsson) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Eliminating Species Bias from the Turing Test Keywords: Turing Test, non-human Message-ID: <1990Feb5.122355.894@lth.se> Date: 5 Feb 90 12:23:55 GMT References: <15439@well.UUCP> <11673@csli.Stanford.EDU> <11324@venera.isi.edu> <1700@castle.ed.ac.uk> <11489@venera.UUCP> <6340@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> <7cHZ028I81fo01@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> <4819@convex.convex.com> <376@radzy.UUCP> Sender: newsuser@lth.se (LTH network news server) Distribution: comp Organization: Dept. Automatic Control, Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden Lines: 22 In article <376@radzy.UUCP> radzy@radzy.PacBell.COM (Tim Radzykewycz) writes: >How can the person asking the question know for certain that >the answers of either subject (e.g. human or computer program) >are true? What are the criteria which s/he can use to determine >this? In the Turing test (as described by Turing) the computer/program is supposed to "pose" as a human, by giving all sorts of answers. Obviously, most of these will be lies. It is important to observe that the Turing test is no test for intelligence or consciousness, at least not according to Turing. It would only prove that the computer is good at "posing" as a human. The good Alan would certainly not agree with either Searle or the defenders of the infamous "strong AI", when it comes to the conclusions of the Turing test. See Turing's article in Mind, october, 1950. Jan Eric Larsson JanEric@Control.LTH.Se +46 46 108795 Department of Automatic Control Lund Institute of Technology "We watched the thermocouples dance to the Box 118, S-221 00 LUND, Sweden spirited tunes of a high frequency band."