Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!edcastle!aiai!ruth From: ruth@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ruth Aylett) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Eliminating Species Bias from the Turing Test Keywords: Turing Test, non-human Message-ID: <1673@skye.ed.ac.uk> Date: 5 Feb 90 14:37:15 GMT References: <15439@well.UUCP> <11673@csli.Stanford.EDU> <11324@venera.isi.edu> <1700@castle.ed.ac.uk> <11489@venera.UUCP> <6340@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> <7cHZ028I81fo01@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> <1877@aipna.ed.ac.uk> Reply-To: ruth@aiai.UUCP (Ruth Aylett) Distribution: comp Organization: AIAI, University of Edinburgh, Scotland Lines: 17 As I recall, deception was an essential element of the original Turing Test - the one that involved a man and a woman. The task was to distinguish which was the real woman, given that the man was doing his best to appear as a woman too. To stand a chance of succeeding, the man has to possess the human capacities of imagination, empathy, and understanding of tests and games, that is social ritual. Would any intelligent entity (assuming we can imagine what a non-human intelligence might be like) be wedded to the literal truth? Or, in the original case, why would the man want to do something as ridiculous as pretend to be a woman over a teletype? As a matter of interest, has anyone anywhere ever tried this original turing test? If so, with what result? Ruth Aylett ruth@aiai.uucp R.Aylett@uk.ac.ed