Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!iuvax!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: phil@wubios.wustl.edu (J. Philip Miller) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Can I Be Charged to Have My Number Not Listed? Message-ID: <3442@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 1 Feb 90 18:10:21 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Reply-To: "J. Philip Miller" Organization: Washington University (St. Louis) Lines: 41 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 69, message 8 of 10 >.... Police/Fire and other emergency service agencies can short-cut >this *somewhat* by calling direct to their contact at telco; but even >then, only selected executives at these agencies know *who* and >*where* to call at telco; that information is available only on a >'need-to-know' basis. Most Bell telcos are very dedicated to >protecting the privacy of their subscribers who have requested it. PT] I was under the impression that for some 911 services, that there was a direct connection of the calling phone number with a database which immediately provided the address of that phone. I had assumed that the content of that database came from the phone company. In fact, in an area like St. Louis, with almost 100 different cities in the city/county 911 area, this type of database is necessary in order to know how to route the incoming phone call. Thus it appears to me that the information is [at least in theory] readily available for the Police/Fire folk. Can someone in the know describe how this works in greater detail? J. Philip Miller, Professor, Division of Biostatistics, Box 8067 Washington University Medical School, St. Louis MO 63110 phil@wubios.WUstl.edu - Internet (314) 362-3617 phil@wubios.wustl - bitnet uunet!wuarchive!wubios!phil-UUCP (314) 362-2693(FAX) C90562JM@WUVMD - bitnet [Moderator's Note: Under E-911 service (the 'E' means enhanced), the name, address and telephone number of the caller are available to the emergency services dispatcher on a terminal in most cases. Coin phones are indicated as such. Calls passed by the operator do not display the information, but the operator is supposed to stay on the line and pass calling number verbally to the dispatcher. But this information only shows up on *incoming* calls. If the emergency services dispatcher needs to locate someone for an *outgoing* call, it becomes a bit harder. For example, the store catches on fire at 2:00 AM....the owner has to be called at home; but his number is non-pub. Another example: you are taken to the hospital in an emergency; the identification in your purse says to call a relative (by name, but no number), and the number is non-pub. Telco will pass messages like this in an effort to help. PT]