Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!decwrl!shlump.nac.dec.com!carafe!goldstein From: goldstein@carafe.enet.dec.com (Fred R. Goldstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Tick-tick-tick-CRASH! is not dead in TOS 1.4 Message-ID: <8040@shlump.nac.dec.com> Date: 2 Feb 90 15:00:38 GMT Sender: newsdaemon@shlump.nac.dec.com Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Littleton MA USA Lines: 41 In article <2015@atari.UUCP>, kbad@atari.UUCP (Ken Badertscher) writes... >grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham Thomas) writes: > >| GST say it's something inside TOS (or GEMDOS or whatever layer >| it might be), so I was rather hoping the problem might go away with TOS >| 1.4. > >Now why doesn't that surprise me? Not to bash GST, but I have found >that a lot of problems similar to this are a result of bad programming >practices. Not intentional, but just because the developer wasn't >aware of some restriction or another. It's all too easy to blame TOS. ... no fair, Ken, it's not GST's problem. About a year ago I posted this same problem with Word Perfect Atari. It too drops into "slow mode" now and then, when it eats up the keyboard buffer about one key every few seconds, treats the screen as if the mouse button were stuck down, and if you're lucky lets you (slowly!) request a save before you have to reboot. Word Perfect Corp. says it's a problem with TOS. The net-consensus was that it's a problem with TOS. It occurs in numerous GEM programs, such as Word Perfect and 1ST_WORD+. It is VERY frustrating, and is one of the main reasons I bought a PClone recently! MS-DOSs eats it raw but at least it gets debugged. It takes maybe half an hour to an hour running Word Perfect to get the bug, though I'm sure it would take a lot longer if somebody were trying to debug it... Now would anyone from Atari like to try to FIX it? >While you're at it, don't forget to sprinkle the chicken's blood on the >keyboard and dance about, chanting at the monitor. Funny, Ken, but that does seem to be about the right way to keep an application running on the ST! --- Fred R. Goldstein goldstein@carafe.enet.dec.com or goldstein@delni.enet.dec.com voice: +1 508 486 7388 (Opinions are the author's own. Sharing requires permission.)