Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!uflorida!unf7!hite386!steve From: steve@hite386.UUCP (Steve Hite) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Apple is dumping 120ns SIMMS into SE/30s Keywords: cheap chips Message-ID: <15@hite386.UUCP> Date: 1 Feb 90 06:18:00 GMT Organization: CS Grad Student @ Univ. of N. Florida Lines: 34 About 6 weeks ago I purchased a new SE/30 1/40 from my university. It was a great deal...a new ImageWriter II was included for a total of $3550. This was part of an Apple holiday promotional with colleges to encourage students to buy Macs. With memory prices falling, I thought it was a good time to go ahead and fill it up to 8 megs. Hey, I've got FullWrite, MPW C and SADE...what can I say. :-) Fearing for my warranty (read my signature), I got Komputer Kingdom (read Dvorak's Feb '90 MacUser column :-)) to install it during a routine logic board removal (read my signature). They gave me back the 1 meg of 256Ks that came with the machine. I was very surprised to find that they were 120ns chips...nah, I was upset! My question is this... Why does Apple put low speed memory chips in their high speed SE/30s? Are they too cheap to use 80ns? Needless to say, I'm not too smart about hardware. But it seems to me that if I had bought only 4 megs of 80ns memory (upgrading the SE/30 to 5 megs total) then I would have to replace the 1 meg of 120's with 80's or my fastest memory access speed would still only be 120ns. Hmm...that stinks, Mr. Pepsi!! BTW, I think the Apple EEs did an EXCELLENT job to keep a 16MHz machine from choking on 120's with no parity errors...can you do it with a IIci :-)? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Hite -=* How to extend your Apple 90 day warranty *=- ...uflorida!unf7!hite386!steve Get a new SE/30, have the first 2 system boards flake out on you, 6 weeks later, the 3rd one finally works...voila!..Instant 42 day warrany extension..."free"...thanks for the memories Apple!