Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!eru!luth!sunic!draken!d88-jwa From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se (Jon Watte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: Apple is dumping 120ns SIMMS into SE/30s Message-ID: <2827@draken.nada.kth.se> Date: 2 Feb 90 13:21:39 GMT References: <15@hite386.UUCP> <7852@hubcap.clemson.edu> Reply-To: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden Lines: 25 In article <7852@hubcap.clemson.edu> jcocon%hazel.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu writes: >All 16MHz Macs will run as fast with 120ns chips as with 70ns chips. The >wait states are hardwired, regardless of memory speed. >Apple is not dumping. 80ns chips are really a waste in anything less than >a IIci, unless you get an accelerator card. >Apple deserves flaming for somethings, but this isn't one of them. Nope ! A 16 MHz machine will not run at all if the SIMMS are 120 ns, since the data won't be there when the CPU wants it. "Luckily" for customers with 120 ns SIMMS in their SE/30's (I have 100 ns, I checked) the classification temds to be conservative and allow for temperature changes and aging. It _is_ bad of apple to put 120 ns SIMMS in a 16 MHz machine. Period. h+ -- --- Stay alert ! - Trust no one ! - Keep your laser handy ! --- h+@nada.kth.se == h+@proxxi.se == Jon Watte longer .sig available on request