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From: omullarn@oracle.oracle.com (Oliver Mullarney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: MPW Wish List
Summary: Its got features, we don't need toys
Keywords: MPW, MacsBug, Hierarchical Menus
Message-ID: <1990Feb5.004034.6097@oracle.com>
Date: 5 Feb 90 00:40:34 GMT
References: <14044@reed.UUCP>
Reply-To: omullarn@oracle.com (Oliver Mullarney)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA
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In article <14044@reed.UUCP> bowman@reed.UUCP (Eric Bowman) writes:
>
>("And now, my trusty assistant Beaker, will turn up the Bunsen Burner")
>
>In response to an earlier flicker -- ok, I don't like heirarchical menus
>either, but customizable menus is hardly a *toy* feature, and adding this
>capability to MPW would not be that hard.  The choice to use MPW is
>frequently motivated by, among other things, the degree to which the
>user can customize the environment.  Isn't a certain level of graphic
>intuitiveness the whole idea? (Sheesh - wadayado, debug your shell scripts
>in MacsBug?)
>
>("Thank you, Beaker.  Beaker?")
>
Customizable menus, I agree, is not a toy feature. Everything you can do
should be in menus, including the 'aliases' you create for frequently
used commands. This may come as a surprise to you, but MPW already does
have customisable menus. What I ridiculed as a toy feature was the wish
for customisable, _hierarchical_ menus.
I would prefer that the people working on MPW spent their time fixing the
bugs in the compilers, making tools more co-operative, talking to the SADE
people to see if they can further integrate these two companion tools, not
farting around with hierarchical menus. I am glad to say that, to the best
of my knowledge, the MPW people are talking to the SADE people, working on
the compilers etc. Not a word yet about hierarchical menus...

As for debugging tools in MacsBug, I have had to do that (not very often,
though even once is too often...) - try debugging an MPW tool using SADE
and you will realise that life is just too short.

  Oliver

(How come nobody else had any complaints about the compilers etc.? I'm
feeling lonely).

| Oliver Mullarney     |  "I have knowledge of Digital Watches,  and soon I   |
| Oracle Corporation   |   shall have knowledge of Video Cassette Recorders"  |
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