Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!decwrl!shelby!neon!Kermit.Stanford.EDU!philip From: philip@Kermit.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: MPW wish list Message-ID: <1990Feb6.065019.22828@Neon.Stanford.EDU> Date: 6 Feb 90 06:50:19 GMT References: <71.25cdb0c2@waikato.ac.nz> <1990Jan23.065751.29303@peace.waikato.ac.nz> <1990Jan25.003918.2359@cs.UAlberta.CA> Sender: news@Neon.Stanford.EDU (USENET News System) Reply-To: philip@pescadero.stanford.edu Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 17 I find this discussion a bit disturbing. There's a consistant thread that says, "Why isn't MPW more like unix?" My question is, "Why is it so much like unix?" I've used more programming environments than I care to remember, and the LS environments are by far the biggest step forward in my experience. MPW doesn't add anything to the state of the art; the LS environments do for personal computing programming what the Mac did for the user. What I would like to know is how an environment of the LS variety could best be extended to provide the functionality of unix, without losing its low learning threshold. My first thought is inspiration is to be found more in environments like Smalltalk and Interlisp, which are more obvious influences on the Mac style of computing. Philip Machanick philip@pescadero.stanford.edu