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From: omullarn@oracle.oracle.com (Oliver Mullarney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: MPW Wish List
Keywords: MPW, MacsBug, Hierarchical Menus
Message-ID: <1990Feb6.214552.11704@oracle.com>
Date: 6 Feb 90 21:45:52 GMT
References: <14044@reed.UUCP> <1990Feb5.004034.6097@oracle.com> <1990Feb5.204443.20878@mathrt0.math.chalmers.se>
Reply-To: omullarn@oracle.com (Oliver Mullarney)
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA
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In article <1990Feb5.204443.20878@mathrt0.math.chalmers.se> d6maca@dtek.chalmers.se (Martin Carlberg) writes:
>In article <1990Feb5.004034.6097@oracle.com> omullarn@oracle.com (Oliver Mullarney) writes:
>>As for debugging tools in MacsBug, I have had to do that (not very often,
>>though even once is too often...) - try debugging an MPW tool using SADE
>>and you will realise that life is just too short.
>
>What? I have never had any problems debugging MPW tools with SADE, I do that
>all the time. Should I have problems?
>

I didn't say I had problems - I said life was too short. It just takes a
goddamn age to step through your tools source when you are 'debugging' MPW.
Sometimes I just convert my tool to an application with hardwired command line
parameters so I can debug it as an application, and save my old age for
sitting by the fire on a rocking chair, not waiting for SADE to return from
a STEP command.

BTW - has anyone else noticed the very strange selection behaviour when
you start debugging a running MPW. OK - you have MPW running with the
command line to launch your MPW tool sitting there in the WorkSheet.
Start up SADE; do the usual:
      Directory.../Source.../Target 'MPW Shell' using 'MyTool.SYM' etc.
Then: Launch 'MPW Shell'
Now try to select the line with your tool's launch command on it by triple
clicking. The results are ... interesting.

Someone else said they would like to be able to split windows? Yup - that
would be nice, and as far as I have heard, is scheduled for the next
release. A decent 'lib' tool, however, is not. :-(

 Oliver


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