Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!spock!odicon!jlg From: jlg@odicon.UUCP (John L. Grzesiak) Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386 Subject: Re: SCSI and 386/ix Summary: SCSI Keywords: scsi 9380s under 386/ix Message-ID: <288@odicon.UUCP> Date: 2 Feb 90 04:25:16 GMT References: <25c1fdd8:490comp.unix.i386@nstar.UUCP> Organization: Omega Dynamics ,Wallingford Ct . ODICON Lines: 62 In article <25c1fdd8:490comp.unix.i386@nstar.UUCP>, akcs.larry@nstar.UUCP (Larry Snyder) writes: > I am considering using a Miniscribe 9380S as my primary drive > here at nstar - and would like to know if the difference in > throughput between the above drive running SCSI and a 18ms > RLLed drive running on a 2372B will be that noticeable. > > I assume that 386/ix will support a SCSI host adapter with > a floppy drive adapter as a drop in replacement for the > 2372B (so I won't need a seperate controller for the floppy > drives). > > Comments? Ideas? Has anyone else gone this route? > > larry I do a bit of interactive R&D at work, here are a few numbers: 8 Mb transfer to null with : dd if=/dev/dsk/0s1 of=/dev/null bs=8k count=1024. RLL -wd1003 ESDI -wd1007vse2 SCSI -adaptec 1542A CDC-85 mb CDC-182 10mbps CDC-385H 3:1 interleave 1:1 interleave 1:1 interleave no track buffering track buffer cached Read Ahead Enabled raw 1:32.4 raw 12.2 raw 13.8 block 57.3 block 14.0 block 13.5 Notes: The track buffering on the WD1006vsr2 will be closer to the ESDI performance but will not boot or run ISC 2.0.1. or 2.0.2. The Adaptec ESDI (2322) was not much faster than the WD1003!! (About 32 seconds in block). Chantal was tested on the SCSI (ver 3.02 and 3.51) . It showed a minor decrease in raw and block transfer but an overall increase in loaded system performance. The SCSI figures are also slightly deceptive since the amount of system time required to do the transfer was less than half the WD interface controllers. The EDSI and RLL performance also decreases by a factor of two with dual drives. SCSI showed no such problem with two (or more) drives. Comments and conclusions. ESDI and RLL are still Programmed I/O type controllers requireing nearly full CPU attention, as well as being limited by the speed of the transfer rate. (i.e. a 10mbs ESDI setup with two drives will allow each drive to transfer about 5mbps). ESDI is limited to two controller on ISC (4 drives). With 4 Maxtor 768mb 15 mbps drives , maximum capacity is 2.4 gbytes formatted. SCSI is an 8megabyte transfer rate, DMA controller capable of transferring without processor intervention. Direct ISC support is two controllers and 4 drives (2.4 gbytes) or with 3rd party Chantal .. 3 controllers and many drives. Plus DAT tape support. My vote is SCSI..... just make sure you use Adaptecs controller and Enable read ahead on your drives. You will be super satified. *-----------------------------------------------------------------* * John Grzesiak @ Omega Dynamics : Specializing in UNIX/XENIX * * Meriden Ct USA : Consulting . . . * * jlg@odicon or spock!odicon!jlg : gaboon!odicon!jlg * *-----------------------------------------------------------------*