Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!cs.utexas.edu!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!Carla.Campbell From: Carla.Campbell@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Carla Campbell) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: The Guide Dog School In San Rafael Message-ID: <9986@bunker.UUCP> Date: 4 Feb 90 14:11:29 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Carla.Campbell@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 59 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 6597 V*> I am becoming rather concerned that they have strong V*> reservations about accepting me because of my hearing V*> impairment. I Have heard some rather negative things about this V*> school lately and I just found out that NFB is becoming upset V*> with them and are saying that it is about time that school V*> (Which always had a good reputation) became accountable to V*> someone and maybe it should be NFB. Some of the things I have V*> hear is that have really become "custodial" and are treating V*> clients like children, and lord forbid an adult client should V*> visit a female client in her dorm room! Also, they seem to have V*> become very very concerned about liability for those of us who V*> are multiply disABLED. I did hear one voice say however, that V*> hey you have to expect some of that stuff to a degree, but you V*> just put up with and get your dog. So, I don't know. NFB folks V*> told me that if they giveme a runaround, they will come and V*> help me. So, I am wondering what is going on right now! Well, good luck, Vixen. Personally, I hope no one forces any of the dog schools to give a dog to anyone, if they determine that they don't feel the dog will assist the person in staying safe. Forcing them, if they believe, sincerely, that your hearing loss is too great to make the use of a dog guide safe is putting yourself and the dog at risk. I don't beleive taht you cannot use a dog, understand, and think that it's bound to be as safe for you as a white cane, if not more so-- but I think the schools ought to have final judgement on such things. There might always be another school whose training is significantly different that they feel they can take you on if another does not. I doubt it will come to that, though, knowing you! As for the stifling atmosphere: all the dog schools I've heard about, including the one I attended are like that. It was very degrading to be treated like a five year ould, indeed. On the other hand, I thought some of the folks with whom I attended probably needed that kind of "institutional care". What, precisely, they were going to do with a dog, I dunno, but they weren't responsible enough to live like adults. Liability has become a big issue. Most of these organizations cannot afford a major law suit, and they'd more than likely face one if one of their..umm.. less responsible female "inmates" was to become pregnant during her stay. Personally, I think it's terrible... but I just gritted my teeth and occasionally reminded the staff that I had an IQ over 50 and lived alone, etc, and would they please stop acting like I was some kind of juvenile delinquent. Worked, for the most part. In some schools, too, the rule about visiting in the dorm rooms is as much for the comfort of one's roomies as it is to prevent "naughty stuff". As someone who roomed with a hyperactively social person my freshman year at college, and therefore spent a lot of nights in the lobby of my dorm while my dear roomie invited in her male friends to stay, I almost appreciated that little rule. Nope, the atmosphere isn't pleasant, but if you just concentrat on getting the dog and learning what ya need to know, it's bearable. Take a lot of books. ... Happiness is a warm modem. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!Carla.Campbell Internet: Carla.Campbell@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org