Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!apple!bionet!arisia!lll-winken!tekbspa!optilink!elliott From: elliott@optilink.UUCP (Paul Elliott x225) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: PAL's vs gates Summary: PALs: power, speed, pincount, price Message-ID: <3060@optilink.UUCP> Date: 30 Jan 90 22:44:25 GMT References: <358@poppy.warwick.ac.uk> Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA Lines: 42 The original PALs (by MMI?) were bipolar devices, the ever-popular 16R8 and 16L8 being typical devices. These had a raw speed of perhaps 15ns tpd in-to-unregistered-out (typical speeds given), and consumed about 140 mA @ 5V. These were quickly followed by "half-power" devices (25 ns, 75 mA). Both of these families remain very popular, with the low- power parts being most popular; the speeds being in the LSTTL ballpark. The advantage of these PALS over random logic is board area, flexability, and a "flattening" effect on the logic, yielding faster performance than the typical TTL equivalent. The disadvantages are generally higher cost and increased power consumption. The 16L8 has 10 inputs, one output, and 7 selectable inputs-or-outputs. There are higher density bipolar PALS as well. CMOS PALs were first introduced by Harris (I think) and were "zero standby power" types, but were significantly slower than the bipolar PALS. Altera (second-sourced by Intel) introduced the EP300 PAL which was moderate power, good speed, and had a very flexable "output macrocell" structure. Altera, and other manufacturers have followed up with larger, faster, lower-power devices. Ballpark data: Part No. Vendor Tpd max ICC (max idle) Price (moderate qty) 16L8 everyone 25ns 180mA $1.00 ? 16L8 lowpwr everyone 35ns 90mA $1.00 ? 16CL8 cmos TI 55ns 100uA ? EP310 cmos Altera 35ns 30mA $5.00 ? EP320 cmos Altera 25ns 150uA $7.00 ? These are all 20-pin PALS. The Altera parts are available with a windowed lid so they can be erased with an EPROM eraser if you goof (or if marketing changes their minds). The bipolar PALS are one-shot devices. Unlike EPROM vendors, the cmos PAL suppliers are _very_ reluctant to release the programming specs, so it is difficult to roll your own programmer. I've not even touched on the many more specialized state-machine type PALS or the larger devices. All prices are guestimates, your mileage may vary. Other vendors include National Semiconductor, AMD, and many others. -- Paul M. Elliott Optilink Corporation (707) 795-9444 {pyramid,pixar,tekbspa}!optilink!elliott "The dog ate my disclaimer."