Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!snorkelwacker!apple!uokmax!munnari.oz.au!uunet!mcsun!ukc!axion!news From: BCOLLINS@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (Bill Collins) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Television detection. Message-ID: <1990Jan31.182757.6731@axion.bt.co.uk> Date: 31 Jan 90 18:27:57 GMT References: <48591bd2.1fbc0@chanel.UUCP> Sender: news@axion.bt.co.uk Reply-To: BCOLLINS@.axion.bt.co.uk Organization: British Telecom Research Labs Lines: 100 From article <48591bd2.1fbc0@chanel.UUCP>, by ngc@chanel.UUCP (Chris Ng): > In article <428@ssc.UUCP>, markz@ssc.UUCP (Mark Zenier) writes: >> In article <2981@servax0.essex.ac.uk>, zotog@sersun0.essex.ac.uk (Zotos G) writes: >> > In UK they use a system (detector, presumably a sort of receiver) to detect >> > a non-licence TV household. >> > >> > Does any out there has any idea of how this is done? >> > What exactly they detect ? >> >> An article (lost in the mists of time ) make me think they use leakage out >> of the IF, since they were listening for the sound. > > How do they know the TV household is a non-licenced one? > > [bits deleted] In the UK, everyone who uses a TV (B&W or Colour) needs a licence. [Note: this causes some anomalies, such as the use of a TV as a monitor for a computer, which is deemed as being a TV even if you never use it as such] [We also used to have to buy licences for radio receivers, but that was scrapped way back in my youth! ... note though, that in the UK we can only legally listen to "broadcast" and amateur stations, but that's another topic] In general, you need one licence per household (which covers any number of sets in it); although there are some complications about hotels and other "sub-let" properties: I do not know all the details. To "assist" in people obtaining a licence, I believe that it is a requirement of shops selling a TV that they notify the authorities every time someone buys one. Thus a database can be built up of households in the country which are known to have a TV, and similarly from the records of licences issued, a cross-check as to whether they hold a TV licence. The task of "policing" the TV licences is given to the Post Office, who also sell the licences (and who, usefully, have lists of all properties in the country!). However, instead of checking every house in the kingdom and asking ... a) Do you have a TV, and if yes: b) Do you have a licence ... they have actually used a bit of lateral thinking, and instead they operate on a list of households which do NOT hold a current TV licence. Thus, they have a much shorter list of properties (most people are honest). In general, "they" announce in advance which part of the country they will be sweeping next, in order to give recalcitrant users the chance to buy a licence before the detectors move in (ask about the silly TV "commercials" they produce). They may also go around independently of the detectors, knocking on doors and politely asking to see your (non-existent) licence ... can anyone confirm this? The detectors are in fact vans equipped with radio receivers and directional aerials, which are driven past peoples houses; although I believe that hand-held receivers and aerials are now used for checking awkward places (eg. blocks of flats) on foot. If I remember rightly, the detectors pick up the local oscillator signal which leaks from the case of poorly shielded TV's (ie. all of them). The receiver is usually a panoramic type, and so it is easy to see the signals as the aerial sweeps past a house. By knowing which channels the local transmitter is on, it is easy to see which station is being received by the occupants ... hence, when they knock on the door, they know exactly what you have been watching! Unfortunately, this method of checking only unlicenced properties means that people who do NOT own a TV (yes, there are some strong-willed people around!), are more likely to get reminders through the post and persistent visits than people who do. Now ... you WILL buy a licence without being asked, WON'T you ?!? Regards, Bill Collins. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Phone : UK: 0473 642760 International: + 44 473 642760 | | E-mail (UUCP): bcollins@axion.co.uk (...ukc!axion!bcollins) | | Snail Mail : British Telecom Research Labs, Dept. RT3123, Room 311, SSTF, | | : Martlesham Heath, IPSWICH, Suffolk IP5 7RE | | Disclaimer : Any views/opinions expressed/implied must be my mistake. | | Thought : "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, | | : but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not | | : what I meant." | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+