Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!jarthur!uci-ics!gateway From: tittle@blanche.ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: BOOK REVIEW: _Gender Blending_ Message-ID: <25C9FF6C.16128@paris.ics.uci.edu> Date: 2 Feb 90 21:45:16 GMT References: <25C26AAE.27180@paris.ics.uci.edu> <922@calmasd.Prime.COM> Reply-To: tittle@blanche.ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle) Organization: University of California, Irvine: ICS Department Lines: 49 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu In-reply-to: nef@calmasd.Prime.COM (Nancy Fox) In article <922@calmasd.Prime.COM>, nef@calmasd (Nancy Fox) writes: [Commenting on my review of _Gender Blending_] |I am frequently mistaken for a man. This occurs most often over the |phone, but has also occurred occasionally in person. I'm a lesbian, |and I usually wear pants and flannel or cotton shirts. This mistaking |me for a man though has always made me and my friends curious, though, |because I don't really look masculine. Holly Devor made much the same comment about some of the women that she interviewed -- she found it hard to believe that people would think of them as men. |One thing that has occurred to me is that, though I don't look |masculine, I don't act or look feminine, so that leaves masculine |as the alternative. Devor covers this in her book. There have been studies done that show people really require very few cues to determine masculinity, but more to determine feminity. Thus the absense of feminine clues leads to assumption of masculinity, but not the reverse. |> give up their masculine behavior. Many were actually mysogynistic to |> some extent, feeling that other women could and should take the same |> route that they did. | |I don't understand what you're saying here. In what way is that |mysogynistic? I sometimes get very frustrated with what I call |"fembots" or those women who play into the helpless female role. |It makes it more difficult for all of us to move ahead out of |sexual stereotyping when some women are still actively playing |the game. Is this what some of the women were expressing? They would criticize and belittle feminine women, mostly for reasons described above. Others tended to be sympathetic. I may have used too strong a word here. |Thanks for the review. I'll pick up the book. You're welcome! Please let me (or the net) know what you thought? --Cindy -- Anyone's death diminishes me, \ | ARPA: tittle@ics.uci.edu Because I am involved in Humanity, /\ | BITNET: tittle@uci.bitnet And therefore never send to know | UUCP: ...!ucbvax!ucivax!tittle For whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee | USNAIL: POB 4188 Irvine CA 92716