Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!URVAX!RYLE From: RYLE@URVAX (Martin Ryle) Newsgroups: bit.listserv.history Subject: Re: stalin Message-ID: Date: 12 Feb 90 04:18:00 GMT Sender: History Reply-To: History Lines: 11 Approved: NETNEWS@PSUVM Gateway X-Envelope-to: HISTORY@FINHUTC.BITNET X-VMS-To: IN%"HISTORY@FINHUTC.BITNET" X-VMS-Cc: RYLE In reply to Kieran OConner's query, Stephen Cohen estimates the number killed during collectivization and the first five year plan to be in the neighborhood of 10-12 millions. An additional million or so died in the purges proper, including only party members. Add the 20 millions in WWII, and the size of the disaster over which Stalin presided becomes almost beyond comprehension. These figures do not include those taken into the Gulag during the late 30's and after 1945. Martin Ryle University of Richmond, VA ryle@urvax.urich.edu