Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!iuvax!cica!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ukma!randy From: randy@ms.uky.edu (Randy Appleton) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Can Machines Think? Message-ID: <14069@s.ms.uky.edu> Date: 8 Feb 90 05:55:32 GMT References: <1037@ra.stsci.edu> <6902@cbnewsh.ATT.COM> <1995@moscom.UUCP> <4050@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> <907@athen.sinix.UUCP> <1326@oravax.UUCP> <11185@thor.acc.stolaf.edu> <1328@oravax.UUCP> Reply-To: randy@ms.uky.edu (Randy Appleton) Distribution: comp.ai Organization: U of Kentucky, Mathematical Sciences Lines: 12 I just read the Jan Scientific American, the one with Searle and so on. Here is the one burning question I have. I think a satisfactory answer to this will convince me that Searle is right, and strong-AI is wrong. But until then, I find Searle's argument to be imprecise gobbly-gook. What exactly IS the difference between "understanding" and "the formal manipulation of syntatic symbols"? He uses those two phrases quite alot, and I think it is this difference that is his main argument. BUT HE NEVER SAYS WHAT IT IS! ARG! Well, thanks Randy