Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tank!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!voder!dtg.nsc.com!andrew From: andrew@dtg.nsc.com (Lord Snooty @ The Giant Poisoned Electric Head ) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Can Machines Think? Summary: parce que Message-ID: <626@berlioz.nsc.com> Date: 8 Feb 90 19:56:53 GMT References: <1037@ra.stsci.edu> <6902@cbnewsh.ATT.COM> <1995@moscom.UUCP> <1329@oravax.UUCP> Distribution: comp.ai Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara Lines: 13 In article <1329@oravax.UUCP>, ian@oravax.UUCP (Ian Sutherland) writes: > I wrote: > -If we substitute "universe" for "chinese room", and "the laws of physics" > -for "the rules of chinese language", are we to conclude that the cosmos > -is a conscious entity? > Why is this absurd (as your "Summary" line suggests)? Sans Peur Because, as Dean points out, there is no external referent to "universe". However, if we now consider a microcosm which obeys the laws of physics (and we are not proponents of Mach) perhaps the absurdity goes away? -- ........................................................................... Andrew Palfreyman andrew@dtg.nsc.com Albania before April!