Xref: utzoo comp.ai:5936 sci.philosophy.tech:2086 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!escher From: escher@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (of Dreams and Shadows) Newsgroups: comp.ai,sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: more Chinese Room Keywords: Chinese room, CR, Searle Message-ID: <1203@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Date: 11 Feb 90 22:05:58 GMT References: <2602@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> <1990Jan9.162338.28110@twwells.com> <9458@cbmvax.commodore.com> <21866@unix.cis.pitt.edu> <7758@sdcsvax.UCSD.Edu> <33868@cci632.UUCP> Sender: usenet@darkstar.ucsc.edu Reply-To: escher@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (of Dreams and Shadows) Followup-To: comp.ai Distribution: usa Organization: Makers Of Brand-Z Physics, c/o UCSC The Beta Block Lines: 22 In article <33868@cci632.UUCP> jct@ccird3.UUCP (John Thompson) writes: > >I don't see a way that inductive reasoning, which by the definitions I am used >to does not always follow rules ( i.e. the jump without sufficent data ), can >be reduced to an algolrithm. Can anyone out there enlighten me as to where I am >wrong with this? Inductive reasoning -- and I prefer as you do the term reasoning over thinking -- is simply taking as given the conclusion and constructing a set of simplifications that lead you back to specific atoms. This can be dealt with by a recursive-like process, or any alogorithm [sp?] capable of searching the "tree" backwards and applying deductive tests to it. Also... there is such a thing as an indirect mode of proof where one ASSUMES what they wish not to prove and concludes to a contradiction, thereby showing the original assumption to be wrong and the negation of that assumption to be right. This sort of "weak" proof corresponds roughly to quite a few so- called "inductive" arguments. [no clever end block yet, but we're working on it]