Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!decwrl!shelby!csli!weyand From: weyand@csli.Stanford.EDU (Chris Weyand) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: more Chinese Room Keywords: Chinese room, CR, Searle Message-ID: <12263@csli.Stanford.EDU> Date: 14 Feb 90 02:20:22 GMT References: <1990Feb13.225830.13432@wam.umd.edu> Sender: weyand@csli.Stanford.EDU (Chris Weyand) Distribution: usa Organization: Center for the Study of Language and Information, Stanford U. Lines: 19 kohout@wam.umd.edu (Robert C. Kohout) writes: [Good summation of Searle's ideas deleted] >3) All Searle really shows is something that we all know already. No >matter how grandiose our program, the bare metal of the digital computer >as we currently know it will never itself become aware. Big deal. The >Chinese Room might start a lot of great, go-nowhere discussions, but it >proves, very, very little. Wait a minute are you saying that Searle is showing that the computer as a hardware architecture can not be aware or no computer + program can be aware? Yes I would agree that we all know the former is true. Just like a dead brain can't be aware (as far as I know :->). But if you mean that Searle has shown the latter then I think he would have proven a lot! Chris Weyand weyand@csli.Stanford.Edu