Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!apple!baum From: baum@Apple.COM (Allen J. Baum) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: '040 vs. SPARC (was: Next computer...) Message-ID: <38415@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 7 Feb 90 18:02:06 GMT References: <8905@portia.Stanford.EDU> <160@zds-ux.UUCP> Reply-To: baum@apple.UUCP (Allen Baum) Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Lines: 24 [] >In article <160@zds-ux.UUCP> gerry@zds-ux.UUCP (Gerry Gleason) writes: >Has anyone seen a 68040? I thought not. You are comparing >a chip that won't ship until this summer with one that is in >a machine that has been in production for some time. This >occurs over and over in the RISC/CISC debate, but that doesn't >seem to keep people from making these silly comparison's. I'm afraid that I have to agree with this one. The '040 has hit silicon, but you're still comparing a 1.2million transistor chip, with built-in caches, to a much smaller chip (how many transistors in the Cypress SPARC, anyone know?) It is still very significant that the are claiming to be faster AT THE SAME COLCK RATE. It also took them a few more years to build the complex chip that would do that- not an easy task, even with the extra time. The Moto folks appear to have done a very nice job on the design of this chip. We still need to wait for real benchmarks. Anyone planning SPECmarks for the '040? -- baum@apple.com (408)974-3385 {decwrl,hplabs}!amdahl!apple!baum