Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!mcgill-vision!bloom-beacon!mintaka!yale!think!samsung!usc!apple!portal!portal!cup.portal.com!bcase From: bcase@cup.portal.com (Brian bcase Case) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: '040 vs. SPARC (was: Next computer...) Message-ID: <26735@cup.portal.com> Date: 9 Feb 90 00:42:42 GMT References: <8905@portia.Stanford.EDU> <160@zds-ux.UUCP> <38415@apple.Apple.COM> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 18 >It is still very significant that the[y] (Moto about the 040) >are claiming to be faster AT THE SAME >COLCK RATE. It also took them a few more years to build the complex chip >that would do that- not an easy task, even with the extra time. Well, it's not entirely clear what clock rate means here. It is interesting to note that the 040 doubles the clock internally and uses four edges. The "execute pipeline stage" does all of the following *in one clock cycle*: register read, ALU, and register writeback. That hardly sounds like a pipeline comparable to other optimized pipelines. Question: could a 25 MHz 040 operate at 50 MHz with a better pipeline? It seems the answer is yes. What does this say about RISC vs. CISC? I don't know, and besides I am speculating anyway. REGARDLESS, the 040 is a really great chip and it will make some damn nice Macintoshes. Add a graphics accelerator (using a RISC, let's say), and WOW!