Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!mcgill-vision!bloom-beacon!snorkelwacker!think!samsung!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!iuvax!bobmon From: bobmon@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (RAMontante) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d Subject: Re: Withdrawal symptoms... Keywords: no moderator Message-ID: <35132@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> Date: 7 Feb 90 02:27:41 GMT References: <22685@usc.edu> <1990Feb6.203835.9134@uwasa.fi> Reply-To: bobmon@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (RAMontante) Organization: malkaryotic Lines: 39 prescriptum: I didn't know that Rahul appointed bill, nor that Keith asked Gene to intervene. Obviously, neither did Peter. (Whee! Namedropping! [ouch! my toe!]) Not that I care much about how this is all done, if I did I'd follow the misc.groups newsgroup or whatever it's called. But why "...[do] things quietly until everything was in place"? It's just kept the confusion and frustration higher for us commoners out here peecee purgatory. Now, for the short of memory: c.b.i.p. was originally unmoderated. Its volume was such that the net.gods threatened to shut it down. Or more accurately, many sites threatened to stop paying the phone bills for distributing it. The newsgroup became moderated as a means to make it acceptable to those who were paying to spread it around to all the rest of us. IMHO one delightful side effect of moderation was that c.b.i.p.'s quality went way, waaay, WAY up. Partly because the unmoderated group's excessive volume frequently didn't include any programs. Literally days and weeks could go by with no source, no binaries, just chatter, and much of that was pretty aimless. Just like c.s.i.p. But also Rahul, when he was at his old job and had the time, was a very thorough moderator. He generated tools for managing archives, some of which I use for completely unrelated purposes. And he tested the stuff before he posted it, so you could be pretty sure it worked on at least a couple of systems. I wish c.b.i.p. would distribute source as well as binaries, and I see no particular need to test source. Source code is for people who intend to do their own hacking. But check the size of the moderated comp.virus newsgroup; I felt a *lot* better knowing that a binary had been checked at least a little bit, and wasn't going to smoke my HD for at least a couple of minutes. Whoever the new moderator is, you have my support, bill :-) I just hope things get rolling soon now. bob,mon.