Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!hafro!isgate!krafla!frisk From: frisk@rhi.hi.is (Fridrik Skulason) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d Subject: Re: Withdrawal symptoms... Message-ID: <1508@krafla.rhi.hi.is> Date: 9 Feb 90 13:00:24 GMT References: <1502@krafla.rhi.hi.is> <4913@itivax.iti.org> Reply-To: frisk@rhi.hi.is (Fridrik Skulason) Organization: University of Iceland (RHI) Lines: 35 In article <4913@itivax.iti.org> dhw@itivax.UUCP (David H. West) writes: >Clearly, one service we can expect (demand?) from a moderator is to scan >submitted binaries for KNOWN viruses, but I can't see how, in a >reasonable amount of time, a moderator could be sure that a submitted >binary didn't contain a NEW virus. Well, most "new" viruses are not really so new - rather only modifications to existing viruses (see note #1) If the moderator uses several different virus scanners, he can probably catch all viruses based on those previously known. One thing a moderator can at least stop, but would be more of a problem if the group was not moderated, is something like the Virus-90 case. There the author uploaded his virus to a number of Bulletin Board Systems, with documentation that said something like: "This program contains a virus. You are permitted to study it, but not to modify it. If you wish to receive the source, please send $25 to......." If an unmoderated c.b.i.p. group had been running at the time, he might even have managed to distribute the virus there - I guess that would have resulted in instant removal of c.b.i.p at some sites..... note #1: Recently I received a Package of 30 Bulgarian PC viruses. Only 4 of them were known before, but since most of the other 26 viruses were related to currently known viruses, only 2 viruses could not be detected by existing anti-virus tools. -- Fridrik Skulason - University of Iceland, Computing Services. frisk@rhi.hi.is Technical Editor, Virus Bulletin.