Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!iuvax!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: syd@dsinc.dsi.com (Syd Weinstein) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Phone Credit Cards Message-ID: <3589@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 6 Feb 90 13:52:01 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc. Huntingdon Valley, PA Lines: 24 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 80, message 7 of 10 dave%westmark@uunet.uu.net (Dave Levenson) writes: >In article <3438@accuvax.nwu.edu>, dwp@cci632.uucp (Dana Paxson) writes: >Note: Bank ATM cards, like telco cards, _do_ have your PIN >magnetically encoded on the card. It is nice of the banks, however, >to have thought of not printing it in a human-readable place on the >card. While in the past, (ten years ago), banks have put the PIN on the card, presently most banks do not. It is indeed a database lookup. The interbank switching system (Cirrus, Plus, etc.) do indeed pass encrypted messages for verifying accounts and PINs. Those banks that do put the PIN on the back, for use by off line machines, usually now encrypt it. It is considered too much of a security risk to put the PIN on the card, and also too much trouble to change it, if the customer requests a change. ===================================================================== Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP Elm Coordinator Datacomp Systems, Inc. Voice: (215) 947-9900 syd@DSI.COM or {bpa,vu-vlsi}!dsinc!syd FAX: (215) 938-0235