Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: Leichter-Jerry@cs.yale.edu Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Computerized Collect Calls Message-ID: <3672@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 9 Feb 90 05:16:46 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: Yale Computer Center (YCC) Lines: 39 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 88, message 3 of 10 I suspect a telco would have a lot of trouble obtaining a conviction of someone who "misused" the automated collect call system. It would take rather a stretch of the law to make it a crime. The fact that the INTENT of the service was to pass my name on isn't likely to be binding on me, absent some specific agreement on my part, ahead of time, that all I will ever use the system for is to pass my rightful name. Post cards are cheaper because they aren't private, but nothing prevents me from encrypting my message (or, as a practical expedient available to some people, writing it in a language few who are likely to see it will be able to understand). Post cards are also smaller, but again I can write as small as I like. Continuing the analogy, people who send out business-reply envelopes do so with a very specific purpose in mind. If I use such an envelope to send something the sender didn't have in mind - well, he still gets to pay for it. I could even make it a policy to take every business-reply envelope I receive and promptly seal it and send it back empty. I'd be rather astonished if this was a crime. (So, astonish me....) Yes, "message passing" would probably contravene telco regulations - as do many other abuses that are not illegal. The usual recourse a telco has is to cut off your service for such abuse. That would be a lot tougher to make stick in this case - after all, the abuser is the caller, who it would be almost impossible to track down and even harder to PROVE was really involved, not the callee, who you could act against easily if you wished. -- Jerry [Moderator's Note: Actually, the mis-use of Business Reply Envelopes is a violation of Postal Service regulations. What constitutes the proper use of same is spelled out in the regulations. Essentially, the old tricks of deliberatly sending them back empty, or in large quantities, or with other than an ounce or less of printed matter pertaining to the business at hand is prohibited. PT]