Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!bartok.Eng.Sun.COM!daemon From: daemon@bartok.Eng.Sun.COM Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Research Digest Vol. 5, #12 Message-ID: <9002092147.AA27171@bartok.sun.com> Date: 9 Feb 90 21:47:05 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: music-research@bartok.Eng.Sun.COM Distribution: inet Organization: The Internet Lines: 145 Music-Research Digest Thu, 8 Feb 90 Volume 5 : Issue 12 Today's Topics: answer to Mitchell Spector IBM PC music editor software (2 msgs) knowledge acquisition in music research Problems distributing Music Research Digest *** Send contributions to Music-Research@uk.ac.oxford.prg *** Send administrative requests to Music-Research-Request *** Overseas users should reverse UK addresses and give gateway if necessary *** e.g. Music-Research@prg.oxford.ac.uk *** or Music-Research%prg.oxford.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Feb 90 09:23:56 EST From: laske@edu.bu.cs Subject: answer to Mitchell Spector To: music-research Feb 6, 90 Dear Mitchell Spector, In answer to your inquiry in music research, let me say there is some work on your topic, as witnessed by submissions to the annual A.I. and Music Workshops (1988 St. Paul, 1989 Detroit, 1990 Stockholm). Unfortunately, the proceedings of the 1988/89 workshops are out of print, and will become available only next year in the form of Readings in A.I. and Music. Kemal Ebcioglu, is probably most aware of work on your topic. Otto Laske ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 90 23:57:08 GMT From: Richard Reiner Subject: IBM PC music editor software To: music-research@uk.ac.oxford.prg IBM PC software which is to a musical score as a text editor is to a document wanted. No other capabilities (e.g. MIDI record or playback) needed, just the ability to edit and print musical scores. Freeware or shareware preferred. Anybody know of such a thing? Thanks. -- Richard J. Reiner rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca BITNET: rreiner@yorkvm1.bitnet (also rreiner@vm1.yorku.ca) -- Richard J. Reiner rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca BITNET: rreiner@yorkvm1.bitnet (also rreiner@vm1.yorku.ca) ------------------------------ Date: 7 Feb 90 20:37:06 GMT From: Randy Spangler Subject: IBM PC music editor software To: music-research@uk.ac.oxford.prg In article <7272@yunexus.UUCP> rreiner@yunexus.UUCP (Richard Reiner) writes: >IBM PC software which is to a musical score as a text editor is to a >document wanted. No other capabilities (e.g. MIDI record or playback) >needed, just the ability to edit and print musical scores. Freeware >or shareware preferred. Anybody know of such a thing? Well, you might try Music Studio by Activision. Oh, there's also some player-piano type freeware on Simtel20, pd1: I think. Of course, without MIDI things are going to sound really pitiful... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Randy Spangler | The less things change, the | | rspangle@jarthur.claremont.edu | more they remain the same | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 90 00:18:02 CST From: "Eleanor J. Evans @ 462-5330" Subject: knowledge acquisition in music research To: music-research@com.sun.eng.bartok The Laske/Handelman/etc. discussion is getting very interesting ... Mr. Laske - As a fellow practising knowledge engineer, I'm curious about some of your comments on the KA process. Exactly how would you go about investigating the compositional process(es)? Your last posting was interesting, but did not give much detail on the KA process itself. You refer to modelling a composer's use of a composition tool by inserting a KA module that records his activity - have I represented your remarks correctly? What kinds of activity would that module monitor? What kinds of conclusions would you draw from that activity? How much expert involvement would you require (feedback loops, etc.)? Additionally, by what reasoning would you conclude that a model of activity using a computer-based composition tool was an accurate reflection of the compositional process(es)? Most of the composition aids about which I have read or heard are characterized as limiting the creative parts of the process; their chief benefits coming from easing the drudgery of annotating/filling in/etc. Am I behind the times? Are there tools now that are integrated with the composer's creative process? Mr. Handelman - from the perspective of a working composer, you remarked that compositional processes vary widely between individuals. Do you see any similarities in approach? Do common tools lead people to similar patterns? If you and a fellow composer tried to talk to each other about how you work, would you be speaking the same language? Do you see any resemblances between your compositional process and that of a creator in any medium (composer, poet, artist, ...)? Eleanor Evans evans@lvipl.ti.com ------------------------------ Date: 6 Feb 90 19:41:47 GMT From: Brad Rubenstein Subject: Problems distributing Music Research Digest To: music-research@uk.ac.oxford.prg It seems that the connection the posts the Music Research Digest from my mailing list to comp.music has broken. I'm working on it. All back issues (up to 5.11 as of today) are available from archive-server@bartok.sun.com (or ...!sun!bartok!archive-server). This is an automated server. Send a piece of mail containing the words "help" or "index music" for details. 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