Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watdragon!lion!ccplumb From: ccplumb@lion.waterloo.edu (Colin Plumb) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat Subject: Re: ISO 639 Message-ID: <20700@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: 8 Feb 90 21:37:26 GMT References: <3109@paperboy.OSF.ORG> <1091@tuminfo1.lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de> <15894@haddock.ima.isc.com> <1990Feb8.164921.22689@utzoo.uucp> Sender: daemon@watdragon.waterloo.edu Reply-To: ccplumb@lion.waterloo.edu (Colin Plumb) Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 26 In article <1990Feb8.164921.22689@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: > Implement? You think ISO cares about implementation? Couldn't prove it > by me, not considering some of the things they put in those protocols. > You don't understand: ISO protocols will gain widespread acceptance by > being rammed down our throats by politicians, not by being enthusiastically > accepted by implementors. That's how ISO works. I have to agree. Why the U.S. DoD ever decided that they were going to take a well-working Arpanet and redo it using ISO/OSI protocols is beyond me. TCP/IP is relatively simple, understandable and works well. Yes, if you need to, reformat the packets, change the checksum algorithm, or whatever, for your hardware-assisted 1 Gbit gateway, but please find serious problems before fixing them. (I've just been reading the SCSI "standard" and have wondered where standards teams get such sick ideas. I like the Futurebus standard, although they introduce some wierd terminology for cache snooping, I like the ANSI C standard. They both know what they're trying to do (and it's *not* create a standard so vague that everyone's implementation is standard, as crept into IEEE 754 and the extended precision disaster), and it's clear to anyone who understands the field reasonably well. I think a good sign of a bad standard is when they need to invent a lot of terms not commonly in use. Maybe they're solving problems not commonly encountered?) -- -Colin