Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!mintaka!ogicse!ucsd!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!ncr-sd!sagpd1!monty From: monty@sagpd1.UUCP (Monty Saine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Faith in the Amiga Message-ID: <624@sagpd1.UUCP> Date: 7 Feb 90 00:53:45 GMT References: <02030.AA02030@sosaria> <13236@cbnewsc.ATT.COM> Reply-To: monty@sagpd1.UUCP (Monty Saine) Organization: Scientific Atlanta, Government Products Div, San Diego, CA Lines: 38 In article <13236@cbnewsc.ATT.COM> gregg@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (gregg.g.wonderly) writes: ))From article <02030.AA02030@sosaria>, by wizard@sosaria.UUCP (Chris Brand): ))> I totally agree. The standards on the Amiga are heaven on earth. )) ))Not to be nasty, but my frame of reference is a little different than yours... )) ))Let's see... )) )) Matt Dillon's UUCP requires the NULL device which I don't have... )) (it wasn't standard with my Amiga!). )) )) Steve Koren's SKSH requires arp.library which I didn't have the right )) version of (it wasn't standard with my Amiga!) )) ))That makes two really useful packages potential headaches because they ))depend on other non-standard packages that I may or may not (choose) to ))have. I am sure that there are other examples of these kinds of things. )) ))Sure the written standards in the manuals are great, but what about the ))software that Commodore is actually backing to support that. If I have to Let me get this straight, you are complaiining because a couple of FREE Public domain programs do not follow standards???? Since when is Commodore or any other computer manufacturer required to support or acknowledge Public domain software?? It seems to me if they do choose to support ARP and NULL then more power to them, but don't complain because some very talented hackers have made some useful utilities that are not supported by CBM....yet. Your only complaint is to the authors if they failed to include a necessary package as part of thier distrubution. Don't Rag on Commodore they wrote the standards, they didn't write the utilities If a person chooses to go out side the standards and generate something different, thats fine, but again they have not violated any standard, they simply extended it for there own needs. If a few others decide to use thier code and it is adopted by the Manufacturer, THEN it must be supported! As yet ARP is not suppported ( but probably soon will be :) ). Monty Saine