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From: sb@pro-generic.cts.com (Stephen Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Re^2: Apple shoots own foot
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Date: 11 Feb 90 05:17:17 GMT
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In-Reply-To: message from cs122aw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

In article <1361@crash.cts.com> paul@pro-europa.cts.com (Paul Hutmacher)
writes:

> The Amiga is a superior machine because there are more game titles
> produced and ported to the Amiga platform than there are for the Apple
> IIgs platform.

Scott Alfter (cs122aw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) responds:

>Whoopee shit! So you can get more games for the Amiga. Does that make it the
>better machine? I don't think so. Games are the last thing I'd consider when
>buying a computer. Your logic is on the level of a ten-year-old joystick
>junkie, apparently. Thanks to you, I know where the games are now. When I
>want to do serious computing, I'll stick to the Apple II.

My points:
(a) I don't think the point was that the availability of games makes one
machine better than another. However, you skirt the point that more games are
available for the Amiga.

(b) Games may be the last thing YOU consider, however, not everyone is the
same, and there is nothing WRONG about choosing a computer just for games.
{Personally, I like a wide variety of programs for my machine, including a
wide variety of games.

(c) I don't think that veiled insults or unpleasantness (or swearing) is
appropriate here. It doesn't further anyone's cause.

(d) You still completely miss the point. If you go to MOST Software
distributers, you see asiles of MSDOS software, and then (after much
searching) find the Classic Apple II/Apple IIGS software tucked away in the
off-brand section.  The selection of games is not great, but more importantly
to me (and I suspect, to you too) is that there isn't a great selection of
GOOD 'productivity' software.

This is because Apple Computer, Inc. has deterred people from using Apple II's
in business.  This is a big mistake. I maintain that if Apple was truly an
ambitious company, they would attempt to exploit every niche to the fullest.
It is clear that from their lacadaisical attitude (in particular, towards the
Apple II) that where they might have been agressive at one point, they have
become complacent and wimpy now.  Their market share is decreasing, and now
the bed that they made they must sleep in.  

BTW: I am currently using an Apple IIe. I have a II+ and a IIgs. My brother
has a IIc+. Please don't accuse me of not knowing about, or about what's
available for, the Apple II line.

Stephen Brown
To All Flamethrowers: Gimme a sec to put on my asbestos suit.

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