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From: johnf@stew.ssl.berkeley.edu (John Flanagan)
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Subject: Re: In DEFENSE of MAGNAVOX...Where's the Facts???
Summary: Yikes.
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Date: 8 Feb 90 01:42:52 GMT
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Didn't know people could get so defensive about their monitors.

In article <3787@cuphub.cup.edu> kar7481@cuphub.cup.edu (Dan Karbowsky;AtariEliteOfPghPa bbs412-384-5609) writes:
>In article <1990Jan30.182032.26630@agate.berkeley.edu>, johnf@stew.ssl.berkeley.edu (John Flanagan) writes:
>> If this is the same monitor which was being sold under the Commodore 
>> nameplate as the 1084 for a while, it is junk.  Ask any 1084 owner
>
>WHY is it "JUNK"? maybe you could enlighten me(us) on this...

There are two main problems that Magnavox/1084 owners have had:

1) It frequently goes blurry in interlace mode.  This may not matter
   to Atari owners, since they don't use interlace mode, but I use it all
   the time and I have to live with this flaw every day.  I've brought
   it to the repair shop, and they can't figure it out.
   
2) The picture on the monitor snaps every couple of minutes.  This seems
   to be curable.

In addition, there have been several reports in the comp.sys.amiga about
bad solder joints being found inside the monitor, which have caused
intermittent failures.

>I have had NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER with mine. (It is a year newer than the
>Commodore-1084 model that Magnavox made--but for all intents and purposes,
>it's the same monitor...)

Great.  I don't claim that every single monitor is bad, but they do
seem to have had a pretty big quality control problem there
for a while.  Maybe they've since fixed it.

>Maybe you should do your research a little better commode-door owner!
>
>PHILLIPS CORP. IS THE PARENT COMPANY OF MAGNAVOX!!!

Oh well, I was only guessing.  I thought I'd heard that Philips was
the new manufacturer.  Maybe not.  Even if they are, there is no reason
that a company couldn't have one bad model and another perfectly good one.

Look, I was only trying to warn you of the experiences we Amiga owners 
have had with one of the monitors that were being mentioned as possible
replacements for the Atari monitor.  Why did that warrant such a violent
reaction?

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