Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!noao-gemini!noao!arizona!naucse!tar From: tar@naucse.UUCP (Tim Roeder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: User support? Re: harddisk-backup Summary: Attitude Problem Message-ID: <1877@naucse.UUCP> Date: 13 Feb 90 01:52:56 GMT References: <8533@pogo.WV.TEK.COM> Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, AZ Lines: 63 In article <8533@pogo.WV.TEK.COM>, bluneski@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (Bob Luneski) writes: > > In <"90-02-09-11:06:10.92*UK14"@DKAUNI2.BITNET> O. Steinmeier writes: > > >... > >So, if you know a reliable, fast, cheap (PD or shareware preferred) > >harddisk backup program, would you send me a message? > > So you want it to be fast, reliable, and do everything but wash the kitchen > sink but you don't want to pay for it???? Typical. I would like the know just what is wrong with wanting to get a useful piece of software as cheaply as possible. As I recall there are very GOOD packages for non-Atari computers in the public domain (PD/Shareware) that do things as well or better than commercial packages at a fraction of the cost. What's the matter, having a bit of hard luck?? > > Besides the TOTAL lack of support from Atari Corp.(products, marketing, and > distribution) the single most important factor contributing to the decline > (and eventual death unless something changes) of the ST is the unwillingness > of users to PAY for quality software. NOBODY wants to develop software for > a machine that you can only sell 500 copies of a program before it's on half > the bulletin boards across the country. > Even though the first part of the above statement is for the most part true, I think that it is ENTIRELY uncalled for to make such a statement vis-a-vis commercial software on Pirate BBS'es. You obviously have a serious attitude problem. > Unless Atari starts selling more machines so there are a few more users to buy > software AND unless ST users start supporting the machine through the purchase > of quality software there won't be any quality software to purchase! > While I do agree with the necessity of support for commercial software for the ST, I dislike the tone that you have used in your little tantrum. If you can't make a positive contribution to the net, then just BE QUIET! > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Bob Luneski > Diamond Back Support Hotline: bluneski@pogo.WV.TEK.COM > Genie: B.LUNESKI1 > > The opinions expressed herein are my own and in no way reflect the > opinions of Tektronix, Inc. Hm, a disgruntled (but obviously otherwise gainfully employed) developer, eh? In response to the original poster's request, I have used the TURTLE backup program by George Woodside successfully for a number of years now. It should be available from the various servers (I'm sure it's at terminator...). If you are unable to ftp, you can get it off of my wife's BBS 7 days a week, from 10PM-7AM MST. The number is: 602-578-9115. I hope that this helps you out, Mr.(?) Steinmeier. (To Bob: See how easy it is to do something constructive as opposed to whining about how 'rough' life is?) Timothy Roeder