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From: baumgart@esquire.dpw.com (Steve Baumgarten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Phil & Dave, where are you?  All is forgiven: come home!
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Date: 9 Feb 90 21:50:17 GMT
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In-reply-to: chewy@apple.com (Paul Snively)

In article <6579@internal.Apple.COM>, chewy@apple (Paul Snively) writes:
>The obvious (to me, anyway) reason for restricting certain materials to 
>certain categories of developers is to make it worthwhile to BE one of 
>those certain levels of developers.  As for why we don't just support 
>EVERYONE doing development, that's the easy part: there are about 35 of us 
>here in MacDTS, and about 6,000 Apple Partners.  Think about that for a 
>minute.

It's not that obvious to me.  I certainly understand why you guys
don't want to deal with phone calls (or Applelink mail, or whatever)
from tens of thousands of people, but that doesn't explain why
access to physical documentation is restricted (I'm thinking of the CD
ROMs in this case).

Sure, charge people if they want/need to have access to you guys to
answer questions or whatever, or if they want to be sent updates on a
regular basis, but for those of us who'd just like to have P&Ds CD,
what's the problem?  I mean, you let any old person with $20 (even
Microsoft employees!) walk into Waldenbooks and buy Inside Mac --- how
does the other documentation differ?

And of course for their $20, none of those people expect the right to
have access to Apple DTS, just the right to tear their hair out late
at night...  :-)

How about if I sign one of those goofy, unenforceable license
agreements (like the one I got with my free copy of "develop"):

	"I promise never to call Mark or Phil or Dave or even John, no
	matter how bad my problems look or feel..."  :-)

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