Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!lll-winken!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!shelby!helens!bauhaus!jim From: jim@bauhaus.Stanford.EDU (James Helman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi Subject: SGI's X (Re: X on the Personal Iris) Message-ID: Date: 13 Feb 90 03:27:39 GMT References: <22195@uhnix1.uh.edu> Sender: news@helens.STANFORD.EDU Distribution: usa Organization: Stanford University Lines: 33 In-reply-to: venkat@csun4.cs.uh.edu's message of 11 Feb 90 07:04:42 GMT venkat@csun4.cs.uh.edu (Venkat Viswanathan) writes: 2) Xsgi keeps crashing on a regular basis and dumps core onto the root partition. It regenerates itself automatically though. Yes, it does crash a lot, doesn't it. But count yourself lucky that the IRIX 3.2 version doesn't crash as often as previous versions did. Another big plus: text is always printed right side up now. Seriously, SGI's X is a lot faster and a lot more usable now than ever before. But it is still too buggy for a real product. I'm amazed that products like this could get throuch QC. Most of the worst bugs in SGI's X server, in this and in previous releases, have shown up within 5 minutes of use. Perhaps, their beta sites have to sign an agreement to only use xterm and have no more than one window open at a time. ;-) The question that I would REALLY like the answer to (besides the obvious, when can I get a better release) is whether the SGI stuff on the X11R4 tape runs better or worse than the stuff shipped with IRIX 3.2. Any answers from SGI? Any experience from the real world? BTW, don't bother trying to get anyplace with the hotline on this. I've been going around with them for over a year about X. The best they can do is put you on the "hot list" for the next release. The support "engineer" who answered my latest X call, after making a couple pointless digressions, focussed on THE REAL PROBLEM, asking whether the final "b" in "exit status: 0x8b" was capitalized or not. Jim Helman Department of Applied Physics P.O. Box 10494 Stanford University Stanford, CA 94309 (jim@thrush.stanford.edu) (415) 723-4940