Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!apple!ames!sgi!shinobu!odin!hellfire.csd.sgi.com!ghelms From: ghelms@hellfire.csd.sgi.com (Gretchen Helms) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi Subject: Re: SGI's X Message-ID: <4060@odin.SGI.COM> Date: 13 Feb 90 22:08:37 GMT Sender: news@odin.SGI.COM Reply-To: ghelms@hellfire.csd.sgi.com (Gretchen Helms) Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 47 Jim Helman writes: >The question that I would REALLY like the answer to (besides the >obvious, when can I get a better release) is whether the SGI stuff on >the X11R4 tape runs better or worse than the stuff shipped with IRIX >3.2. Any answers from SGI? Any experience from the real world? Clients and libraries and such should work fine. I have been informed by one of our X engineers that the server from the X11R4 tape will *not* build. >BTW, don't bother trying to get anyplace with the hotline on this. >I've been going around with them for over a year about X. The best >they can do is put you on the "hot list" for the next release. The >support "engineer" who answered my latest X call, after making a >couple pointless digressions, focussed on THE REAL PROBLEM, asking >whether the final "b" in "exit status: 0x8b" was capitalized or not. Many times when a call comes in that is not a request for information, the best policy for our customers is to have in hand a list that contains the sequence of events that caused the problem, the behaviour exhibited by the machine as it crashes or bombs, and the specific error codes produced at that time. This allows us to search through our database to locate the same error and cross-reference a previous call to see if it could impact the current one. Unfortunately, many of the error codes are somewhat obscure. Frequently a missing digit or the difference between uppercase and lowercase can be crucial in pinpointing the problem. For example, the difference between "aborted with" and "killed by" often lets us know whether a program caught an internal error or was terminated before it had a chance to progress past a given point. For this reason, we ask for your patience when we request more information on the error codes or symptoms that are described. G. "Murdock" Helms A host is a host & from coast to coast Silicon Graphics No one will talk to a host that's close Product Support Engineer Unless the host (that isn't close) ghelms@sgi.sgi.com Is busy, hung or dead. -D. Lesher