Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!jarthur!polyslo!vlsi3b15!vax1.cc.lehigh.edu!netnews.upenn.edu!grad2.cis.upenn.edu!aaron From: aaron@grad2.cis.upenn.edu (Aaron Watters) Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Proof theory (was Re: Academic legend) Message-ID: <20332@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 13 Feb 90 14:37:47 GMT References: <20433@watdragon.waterloo.edu> <2072@rex.cs.tulane.edu> <19983@netnews.upenn.edu> <1318@oravax.UUCP> <20010@netnews.upenn.edu> <9993@dime.cs.umass.edu> Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Reply-To: aaron@grad2.cis.upenn.edu.UUCP (Aaron Watters) Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 22 In article <9993@dime.cs.umass.edu> yodaiken@freal.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes: >In article <20010@netnews.upenn.edu> aaron@grad2.cis.upenn.edu.UUCP (Aaron Watters) writes: >Look at "Bounded Arithmetic" by Sam Buss (Bibliopolis 1986) >for an iteresting"real mathematic" use of proof theory. I apologise for using bad terminology. I suppose the proof of the semidecidability of first order predicate calculus could be called a `use' of proof theory -- and it's certainly good mathematics. This is not the sense I meant when I said that proof theory was seldom `used' by mathematicians. I meant `use' in the sense of `no sensible programmer uses turing machines.' I.e, turing machines are a theoretical object of study and not a practical way to implement programs. I should have said that the original posting was misleading because it suggested that mathematicians operate within the realm of formal proofs, which they don't. Proof theories are a theoretical object of study and not a practical way to arrive and mathematical truth. -aaron.