Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!pallas!kabra437 From: kabra437@pallas.athenanet.com (Ken Abrams) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Downloading (Part 2) Message-ID: <277@pallas.athenanet.com> Date: 8 Feb 90 22:34:45 GMT References: <5666@udccvax1.acs.udel.EDU> Reply-To: kabra437@pallas.UUCP (Ken Abrams) Distribution: usa Organization: Athenanet, Inc., Springfield, Illinois Lines: 29 In article <5666@udccvax1.acs.udel.EDU> william@vax1.acs.udel.EDU (William H. York) writes: >In my last posting I asked for help downloading but got more questions >than I expected. Here are some specifics... >I am using Procom version 2.4.2, running a Leading Edge with an internal >Hayes 1200 modem, my local (pc) line settings are 1200,E,7,1. >The most common download protocol I use is xmodem on the vax. Procedure In the beginning, there was E,7,1; all else was darkness. This begat Kermit and the hackers looked upon it and said "It is good". Then there came N,8,1 and the protocals grew and multiplied; little xmodems and ymodems sprung up all over the place. The moral of the story is: If you MUST use E,7,1 you SHOULD stick with Kermit (yech). Procomm is not capable of switching packet patterns in mid-call (and your modem may not be either). All of the xyzmodem protocals require N,8,1 and if BOTH ends can't gracefully switch, you are doomed to failure. Actually, your best bet is to try to force a logon at N,8,1. A few C/Rs and a BREAK or 2 will usually get the hosts attention in the right mode. If that fails, you can sometimes even logon blindly by ignoring the trash that echoes back and once you have entered your logon and password, things will magically display readable characters again. If none of this allows you to logon at N,8,1 then you are probably doomed to using Kermit. -- ======================================================== Ken Abrams uunet!pallas!kabra437 Illinois Bell kabra437@athenanet.com Springfield (voice) 217-753-7965