Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!snorkelwacker!apple!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!119!5.0!Laurie.Wilson From: Laurie.Wilson@p0.f5.n119.z1.fidonet.org (Laurie Wilson) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Musings of a demented mind Message-ID: <10075@bunker.UUCP> Date: 12 Feb 90 03:00:19 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Laurie.Wilson@p0.f5.n119.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:119/5.0 - Lazarus, Chico CA Lines: 52 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 6669 > The ridicule of others is not a reason not to teach a > person a useful skill. Therefore, I don't buy your argument > that one should not teach a deaf person to speak because > his voice produces strange sounds. Let's educate his hearers, Pat, We also need to realize that only small percentage of deaf people succeed in speech to a varied degree. However, there are really many of those who can only produce uninteligible sounds. The point is that most of them have already been trained in speech in their early years. No matter how hard they tried, they just couldn't produce good speech enough to make it worthwhile. Really, in my personal opinion, speech is not the most important part of being human, especially when the deaf people already have their own language. They feel that speech is not natural for them because they can't hear it themselves. We all know from the history that it is human nature when some unusual minority groups are being ridiculed for being different from the majority. I called the "ridiculing" attidute as a racism. Look at how the Chinese immigrants who came here in California back in 1800's and how they were harrassed by the majority. And remember there is a saying that a powerful and dominating majority tends to impose their language upon those minorities---in such as education, public, and politics. Sociality is the place where the minorities seek each other in their common language and heritages. When deaf people immigrated here from other country, they already had their own sign language. Laurent Clerc was one such guy. He was a French man and a deaf teacher who brought his French Sign Language. According to the history of the deaf, there was an old American Sign Language prior to 1820's. Eventually, both FSL and ASL combined together into modern ASL. I really believe it is important to give all deaf children a chance at learning speech in school, but not forcing it on them if some of them fail at it. There is another way they can communicate well by learning English as second language. With that they can write and read well. I know from experiences that if we teach only English to them without sign language, they most likely will not do well by falling below the average age reading and writing skills. This has been proven too often. I am amazed that no one is doing anything about before!! Well, I will say one thing for sure...the deaf education really sucks! We should hire more deaf teachers. Laurie -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!119!5.0!Laurie.Wilson Internet: Laurie.Wilson@p0.f5.n119.z1.fidonet.org