Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!haven!ames!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!Jack.O'keeffe From: Jack.O'keeffe@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Musings of a demented mind Message-ID: <10092@bunker.UUCP> Date: 12 Feb 90 03:02:47 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Jack.O'keeffe@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA Lines: 32 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 6686 PG>> If we believe that we should NOT teach deaf people to speak, PG>> we can use the SAME argument to claim that we should not teach PG>> ANY handicapped person to do anything that is difficult . . . SW> My point was that if a deaf person cannot be taught to speak SW> well enough to be understood, why bother? But Steve, however will we know what the limits (if any) are unless we try. That's "why bother?"! SW> I was also bringing into the question the fact that teachers SW> think that deaf people who cannot learn how to speak are stupid. Isn't it true that some teachers have greater success than others? Possibly the difference is as much in the teacher as the student. Not all are Annie Sullivans, you know. SW> Other deaf children, who do manage to learn how, tend to mock SW> the ones that cant - copying the teachers in this respect. Unfortunate, but true. The teachers may even encourage this, and the children having difficulty will stop trying to learn. Jack. ... :-) -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!129!89!Jack.O'keeffe Internet: Jack.O'keeffe@f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org